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How are Republics most likely to die?

harsh.ag

Well-known member
Alexander Hamilton wrote in 1792:

"The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Benjamin Franklin had a famous reply to what kind of a government America was getting, "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Are election of demagogues by a frustrated citizenry - a partly apathetic citizenry not entirely well informed about how government works and where to put the blame - the most likely way for a republic to die?

What other ways come to mind?
 

the big bambino

Well-known member
Alexander Hamilton wrote in 1792:

"The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Benjamin Franklin had a famous reply to what kind of a government America was getting, "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Are election of demagogues by a frustrated citizenry - a partly apathetic citizenry not entirely well informed about how government works and where to put the blame - the most likely way for a republic to die?

What other ways come to mind?
From Alexander Hamilton to ...

With thunderous applause.
Is a sudden and precipitous fall.
 

cpr

Well-known member
Yeah, usually the endless bureaucracy of a democracy almost halts it in its attempts to be efficient. This makes the maverick candidate for leadership appeal, as he promises to cut through the chaff and get things working again. Apathy usually lets him in, and his intelligence and working under cover keeps the wheels of democracy turning in the publics eye whilst he consolidates power. Sure others will notice that Republic is rotting from the inside, but by then he's ready to test his Death Star on a planet of his choice.
 
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