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***Official*** 1st Test at The Gabba

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
Son Of Coco said:
It seemed to me Pietersen said 'No' with a fairly pained expression on his face as soon as it went past too...maybe it was a hemorrhoid popping.
Don`t think there`s any maybe about it tbh.
 

tooextracool

Well-known member
PhoenixFire said:
I was surprised as to how well Collingwood played Warne, and Cook as well. This isn't going to be a 40 wicket series for him.
Cook played Warne better than expected, but his dismissal was worrying, in that it followed the trend of his dismissals to Kaneria during the summer. He still needs to work on playing spin with soft hands and letting the ball hit bat rather than the other way around. Otherwise i predict more catches for short leg.
 

tooextracool

Well-known member
BingLeeElectric said:
Everyone going wayyyyyyyy over the top with the Bell love.

One 50 on a road, in which he should have been given out plumb LBW on about 0, to go with his other duck and everyone's got a hard on for him.

Laughable.
Like someone has already mentioned, England were always batting for time, rather than runs. The number of runs he scored is irrelevant, the fact is that he batted more balls than anyone else in the England side in either inning. Hence you could say he played the biggest role in saving that test match than any of the others.
 

tooextracool

Well-known member
Slow Love™ said:
* Collingwood played really well in that second dig. IMO, he's got a bit of steel about him and is a bit underrated as a test cricketer. But that jump down the pitch to Warne was completely idiotic, and was akin to something a South African might do. Didn't invalidate his innings, but as captain, you would have been furious, in spite of the fact that he'd kept the Aussie bowlers out and counter-attacked so well up to that point. Unless of course you yourself were about to go out and play a suicidal pull shot like Flintoff did shortly after.
I really cant understand this post. First you credit him for 'counter attacking' Australia, then you call his jump down the pitch to Shane Warne completely idiotic, not to mention that he must have skipped down the wicket to Warne some 10 times before that, and gotten a fair few boundaries in the process. There was nothing wrong with him coming down the pitch, the mistake he did make however was that he continued with the heave, despite the fact that he didnt get to the pitch of the ball and despite the fact that he would have clearly seen that the ball hit the crack.
 
tooextracool said:
I really cant understand this post. First you credit him for 'counter attacking' Australia, then you call his jump down the pitch to Shane Warne completely idiotic, not to mention that he must have skipped down the wicket to Warne some 10 times before that, and gotten a fair few boundaries in the process. There was nothing wrong with him coming down the pitch, the mistake he did make however was that he continued with the heave, despite the fact that he didnt get to the pitch of the ball and despite the fact that he would have clearly seen that the ball hit the crack.
It didn't hit one.
 

shortpitched713

Well-known member
FaaipDeOiad said:
I'm not sure if it hit the bat or not, but I'm inclined to believe it did based on Gilchrist's reaction. I can't see him jumping around and appealing that confidently and instinctively in unison with Hayden despite a complete lack of support from the bowler unless he heard or saw something, and he was far closer than the umpire.
Tbf, Gilchrist has appealed for some pretty dubious "nicks" in the past. And I certainly wouldn't put it past Hayden to appeal for something like that.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
I'm pretty sure Warne delivery to Collingwood DID hit a crack. I'm not sure whether he'd have hit it either way, he was really beaten by the dip and drift more than the spin.
 

Slow Love™

Well-known member
tooextracool said:
I really cant understand this post. First you credit him for 'counter attacking' Australia, then you call his jump down the pitch to Shane Warne completely idiotic, not to mention that he must have skipped down the wicket to Warne some 10 times before that, and gotten a fair few boundaries in the process. There was nothing wrong with him coming down the pitch, the mistake he did make however was that he continued with the heave, despite the fact that he didnt get to the pitch of the ball and despite the fact that he would have clearly seen that the ball hit the crack.
I don't see why it's hard to understand. Mainly 'cause "counter-attacking" isn't equivalent in definition to "premeditatively charging down the pitch for an almighty six-hit and getting nowhere near it".

There's a difference between charging and swinging like that and using your feet to the spinners (which Collingwood did quite well through his innings in general). IIRC he only actually charged like that two or three times. One he did hit for six, and I think another might have just fallen short of a fielder, an over or two previous to his dismissal. Anybody watching would have seen that he was edgy, and it was a "going for the century" lusty heave, and given he barely got near to where the ball pitched, yes, I think it was pretty foolish. He knew it, too. And the reason he couldn't check the shot was because he was utterly committed to putting the ball over the fence.
 

howardj

Well-known member
Food for Thought

The article is a little over the top. However, I agree with the general point. I mean, there seems to be this quantum leap of logic that because we now live in age of 'terrorism', normal members of the public are somehow more prone to violence, and need to have their freedoms curtailed. In my view, this sort of officiousness is so wrong and contrary to our way of life.
 

Son Of Coco

Well-known member
shortpitched713 said:
Tbf, Gilchrist has appealed for some pretty dubious "nicks" in the past. And I certainly wouldn't put it past Hayden to appeal for something like that.
Given the noise, I would have been doing backflips.
 
shortpitched713 said:
Tbf, Gilchrist has appealed for some pretty dubious "nicks" in the past. And I certainly wouldn't put it past Hayden to appeal for something like that.
Geriant Jones gets picked on the basis of his cheating by way of appeals alone.

Gilchrist is one of the more fair gentleman left in the game.
 

howardj

Well-known member
Goodbye Ashes Forum. (I think it gets binned tonight).

You promised so much but, as a contest, delivered nothing.
 
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