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The African News and Politics Thread

MrPrez

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The only response is economics. As long as there is insufficient jobs in SA for the growing under-skilled, younger job seekers then you will continue to see the problems in SA; including this continuous violence and anger. Because when some people feel they have nothing to lose they will behave have as if they have nothing to lose. And as always politicians will give them anybody else to blame but the politicians themselves. Pretty much the same as everywhere just countries like SA struggle to cope with all our already numerous problems.
SA is also seen as the economic hub of Southern Africa (because it is) which means that lots of foreigners make the move seeking a better life.

It's kind of like an extreme version of the US/Mexico situation.
 

andruid

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Some more commentary on Mugabe's legacy in health care

Zimbabwean doctors note the symbolism of Mugabe seeking treatment 8,000 kilometres (5,000 miles) from home in Singapore's gleaming Gleneagles clinic, where the cheapest suite costs around US$850 (770 euros) a day.

"It is very symbolic that the former president who presided over all the system for three decades can't trust the health system," said Edgar Munatsi, a doctor at Chitungwiza, 30 kms (18 miles) from the capital Harare.
 

andruid

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Is it me or was the judge in this case a little high


The High Court decision on Friday indicated that Rastafarianism is a religion just like any other and ought to be respected. While giving his final verdict in a suit in which a father of a girl who was sent away from Olympic High School in Nairobi soon after being admitted in Form One, Justice Enoch Chacha Mwita said that the school administration’s action denied the girl her right to religion and education.

The judge also pointed out that the Constitution does not define what religion is but the dictionary does.

Also, kenya is trialling a new Malaria vaccine

Kenya on Friday added the world’s first malaria vaccine to the routine immunisation schedule for children under two, becoming the third country in Africa to roll out the vaccine for the disease that kills one child globally every two minutes.
 

StephenZA

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andruid

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andruid

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Russia now wooing African countries with 'goodies'

Mr Putin offered what he called a vision for cooperation with Africa as some 3,000 delegates continued arriving at Sochi resort city. At least 35 African heads of state and government have confirmed attending.

Eritrea not exactly over the moon about Ethiopia's Abiy Ahmed Nobel Peace Prize

Eritrean President Isaias Afeworki was acknowledged for accepting Abiy's peace offer in the Norwegian Nobel Committee's announcement, which held out hope of "positive change" in both countries. But he was not given a share of the prize and has made no public statement on the award.
 
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StephenZA

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So SA’s biggest opposition party the DA has decided to commit hara-kiri this last week. Which pretty much gives absolute freedom to the ANC; and provides a nice big boost for the EFF, the far left nationalist party within SA.

I don’t see how SA political or economic situation could get worse at the moment unless the country decided that a civil war was a good idea.
 

MrPrez

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So SA’s biggest opposition party the DA has decided to commit hara-kiri this last week. Which pretty much gives absolute freedom to the ANC; and provides a nice big boost for the EFF, the far left nationalist party within SA.

I don’t see how SA political or economic situation could get worse at the moment unless the country decided that a civil war was a good idea.
This whole DA thing is so bizarre.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see the mass exodus after the elections, but it's just so weird that this happens now.

The Joburg mayor-ship is also going to be interesting to follow now, as the EFF may pull out of the coalition deal with the DA. ANC has already said it is negotiating in this regard.
 

StephenZA

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This whole DA thing is so bizarre.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see the mass exodus after the elections, but it's just so weird that this happens now.

The Joburg mayor-ship is also going to be interesting to follow now, as the EFF may pull out of the coalition deal with the DA. ANC has already said it is negotiating in this regard.
Good article by Adriaan Basson
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/A...w-helen-zille-built-and-broke-the-da-20191024

But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.
 

andruid

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Good article by Adriaan Basson
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/A...w-helen-zille-built-and-broke-the-da-20191024

But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.
Really insightful read. Does this take the pressure off ANC to deal with unemployment and inequality or will it just give room fr the EFF to be a more challenging opposition than the DA.
 

MrPrez

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Good article by Adriaan Basson
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/A...w-helen-zille-built-and-broke-the-da-20191024

But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.
Yeah, fair enough, I meant more bizarre as in the timing rather than the actual fallout. I expected more fallout just after the elections, particularly given said tension in the party.
 

StephenZA

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Yeah, fair enough, I meant more bizarre as in the timing rather than the actual fallout. I expected more fallout just after the elections, particularly given said tension in the party.
They did poorly in the election not because of anything Maimane did wrong other than try make the party more palatable to the entire country, it was the infighting prior over these exact attitude from the more conservative members and problems within the party that caused people to lose faith. His resignation and removal, is pure politics within the party and the poor election showing was used as an excuse. This whole episode is not unlike what happened with Zuma but for totally different reasons.

Really insightful read. Does this take the pressure off ANC to deal with unemployment and inequality or will it just give room fr the EFF to be a more challenging opposition than the DA.
Yes and No. The problems are real and the population of SA will not allow this to continue for long one way or another. However the problems within the ANC has nothing to do with their plans, ambitions or manifesto to sort these problems out. It is purely the corruption (and thus will), the incompetence and disregard for the people of SA in general. So the loss of the DA as a real political power allows that corruption and incompetence to continue; this combined with no real opposition provides no alternative for the public to get behind. With the EFF around, this is likely to drag the whole country further left into a corrupt socialist state long term; Unless a left leaning but central party comes along soon SA's problems are only going to be compounded ten fold.
 

MrPrez

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They did poorly in the election not because of anything Maimane did wrong other than try make the party more palatable to the entire country, it was the infighting prior over these exact attitude from the more conservative members and problems within the party that caused people to lose faith. His resignation and removal, is pure politics within the party and the poor election showing was used as an excuse. This whole episode is not unlike what happened with Zuma but for totally different reasons.
Yeah, I again agree with you 100%, just surprised it didnt happen sooner if it was going to happen at all.
 

StephenZA

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Although it makes sense that Maimane/Trollip resign as Zille comes back I guess.
Yeah. I think the timing had to do with the recent election, minute that Zille won the party chair over Trollip (who I can't stand either) then the only option was for Maimane and Trollip to resign.

Zille's backtracking from early stances on what the DA needed to becomes is also pretty amazing though, shows how no matter the person or the good intentions, hubris eventually takes over.
 

andruid

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Kericho boasts some of Kenya's most profitable agricultural land - but the Kipsigis and Talia say they reap none of the benefit.
The land today is largely owned by corporate giants such as Unilever, which sources tea from Kericho for some of its best-selling global brands like Lipton.
The alleged expropriation of land began in the early 20th century but accelerated from the 1920s, after Kericho's exceptional suitability for tea was realised.

More colonial era shenanigans coming to light: https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/ne...land-theft/4552908-5330438-13tyqf1/index.html

Tanzania's John Pombe Magufuli being extra: https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/ne...h-president/4552908-5331944-1ghox3/index.html

Popular Tanzanian comedian Idris Sultan is being held at a police station in the main city, Dar es Salaam, after sharing photos of a face swap between him and President John Magfuli, his lawyer and family say.
He was summoned to the police station on Wednesday.



And trouble in Ethiopia: https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/ne...ly-clashes/4552902-5332638-10a2gpr/index.html


Protests against Abiy erupted in Addis Ababa and in Ethiopia's Oromia region on October 23 after a high-profile activist accused security forces of trying to orchestrate an attack against him—a claim police denied.
The unrest quickly devolved into ethnic and religious clashes that killed dozens of people over three days.
 
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