cbuts said:
the points is why ahve a tournament when the best dont reach the end? yes we lost to aussie, yes we got ****ed up. but yes we have ****ed up all the other 3 semi finalists. just shows how big the gulf is between aussies and the rest. the large amount of prze money that we misse dout on due to this draw **** up will ahve effects for nz cirkcet in the future. ur talking about a union that has to scrap tests for odi's due to financial problems
CBUTS, I can see your points and agree with some. It seems unfair doesn't it when NZ the second best ODI team ATM to Australia ends up being put in the same group as Australia. If NZ had another game under its belt before playing Aus, like England the result may well have been different.
Besides I agree that NZ would on most days of the year beat WI and England!!
But at the end of the day ODI's are a lottery and any one of the top 8 can beat the other on their day. A knockout tournament such as the Champions trophy exemplifies this fickle character of ODI's. Mate, England have long been the ones who got whipped
by everyone in ODI's. So neither you nor I should despise their occasional moments of glory
which are few and far between!!
If you look at the World Cup one win does not send a team into the semi finals, nor does one loss send a team out of the tournament. And as you probably well know in the last 2 World Cups NZ has done well (reaching Semis in 1999 and Super six 2004 IIRC).
Mate , NZ was hampered at this Champions Trophy by the absence of the champion prized bowler in Shane Bond. If he returns to the Team fully fit NZ will be a totally different team.
Without wanting to sound too patronising, I think with John Bracewell (who was regarded as the best limited overs coach in England when he helped Gloucestershire to their phenomenal success) as coach NZ's ODI fortunes are going to improve vastly IMO.