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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

honestbharani

honestbharani

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Vettori is a decent shout actually but Shakib is a better all-rounder for me. And then it's a case of figuring out the best guy to partner Shakib and I think Moeen and maybe Afridi somewhere in the order are the best bets. Maybe Hooper ahead of Moeen?
 
kyear2

kyear2

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Red Hill said:
Gun fielders in specific positions

Bob Simpson (slip)
Ricky Ponting (point)
Greg Chappell (slip)
Viv Richards (point/cover)
Allan Border (mid wicket)
Gary Sobers (short leg/utility)
Allan Knott +
Ravi Jadeja (utility)
Allan Davidson (leg gully/square leg)
Joel Garner (gully)
Terry Alderman (slip)
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Sobers best position and where he spent most of his time was at slip. He was one of the very best ever at the position.
 
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kyear2

kyear2

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The ATG and great batsmen who were also superb in the cordon

Garry Sobers
Steve Smith
Brian Lara
Jacques Kallis
Greg Chappell
Wally Hammond

Ricky Ponting
Everton Weekes
A.B deVilliers
Bobby Simpson

May have missed some names, but a respectable top 10.
 
kyear2

kyear2

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Red Hill said:
Viv
Ian Chappell
Mark Taylor
Mark Waugh
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Viv was very good in the slips. Not quite as elite as those I referenced imo, close though. I could be wrong, but I don't recall him making the difficult / spectacular catches, but never really saw him drop much either.

The other 3 weren't quite ATG batsmen.


One possible future name could be Kohli. He isn't always in there, but when he is in 3rd he is not bad at all, very clean when I've seen him.
 
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JBMAC

JBMAC

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kyear2 said:
The ATG and great batsmen who were also superb in the cordon

Garry Sobers
Steve Smith
Brian Lara
Jacques Kallis
Greg Chappell
Wally Hammond

Ricky Ponting
Everton Weekes
A.B deVilliers
Bobby Simpson

May have missed some names, but a respectable top 10.
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Colin Cowdrey
 
JBMAC

JBMAC

Well-known member
kyear2 said:
The ATG and great batsmen who were also superb in the cordon

Garry Sobers
Steve Smith
Brian Lara
Jacques Kallis
Greg Chappell
Wally Hammond

Ricky Ponting
Everton Weekes
A.B deVilliers
Bobby Simpson

May have missed some names, but a respectable top 10.
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Colin Cowdrey
 
vcs

vcs

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kyear2 said:
Viv was very good in the slips. Not quite as elite as those I referenced imo, close though. I could be wrong, but I don't recall him making the difficult / spectacular catches, but never really saw him drop much either.

The other 3 weren't quite ATG batsmen.


One possible future name could be Kohli. He isn't always in there, but when he is in 3rd he is not bad at all, very clean when I've seen him.
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Kohli's taken some good ones recently, but has a reputation for dropping quite a few (been better in recent times though). Rahane is usually very good, but he's dropped several catches recently.
 
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Daemon

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Kohli's dropped more than anyone I've seen in that 14-18 period. Improved slowly since then and has taken a few stunners, but I don't think I'll ever be comfortable calling him superb.

Jayawardene was elite but maybe falls short on the batting front.
 
Red Hill

Red Hill

The artist formerly known as Monk
I really enjoy it when pace bowlers are also really good slippers or gully fielders. Jimmy Anderson and Terry Alderman are/were very good slippers. Joel Garner was really good in the gully.
 
kyear2

kyear2

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vcs said:
Kohli's taken some good ones recently, but has a reputation for dropping quite a few (been better in recent times though). Rahane is usually very good, but he's dropped several catches recently.
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It really is a very difficult and specialised aspect of the game and why the great ones were / are so valuable. The 2nd slip position in particular is so vital.

And Kohli seems to be improving but still have some way to go to join the list.
 
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