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The Australian politics thread

duffer

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Makes me sad seeing her and her views become legitimised in front of our own eyes over the past couple of decades.
 

Line and Length

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Makes me sad seeing her and her views become legitimised in front of our own eyes over the past couple of decades.
Her views were hardly legitimised. They represent a small percentage of the population whose views aren't respected or accepted by the majority of Australians. The only reason she has a voice is because our electoral system for the Upper House has enabled he to gain a senate seat along with other one policy, single issue parties. It is sad that she has survived as a political figure for this long.
 

Burgey

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They are legitimised. The govt does preference deals with her and accepts her vote in the senate, while mainstream tv networks give her a voice, as do RW talkback radio stations and the nutbags on Sky.

Her views are *completely* legitimised
 

Shady Slim

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and it’s not as if PHON only racks their votes up in rural and regional australia. they clocked in at almost 7.5% primary vote in the lower house in penrith (which is a state seat) here at the 2019 election; one in every fifteen australians in a pretty built up and urban area, an area that’s totally rife with economic injustice, poverty, and flowing from those two (and not from the fact there are a lot of “methadone migrants who don’t speak english”), quite a lot of crime.

this is the exact area, one with a high crime rate, growing population of non white australians and widespread poverty, that policies and dog whistles of the far right marginalise, and yet the white population in these areas is turning out to vote for them still. penrith also has a professional middleclass, a lot of whom i know from experience are hard libs and don’t like the way the suburbs are growing in minority population. before i was at the firm i’m at, we won a case to green light a mosque in penrith and our team had to be escorted out of the court room by the cops because the local bikie brigade was ready to go at them outside, this is all anecdotal, sure, but it’s a bit naive to say that those views aren’t legitimised here
 

Spark

Global Moderator
They are legitimised. The govt does preference deals with her and accepts her vote in the senate, while mainstream tv networks give her a voice, as do RW talkback radio stations and the nutbags on Sky.

Her views are *completely* legitimised
She'd have won seats without any preference flows last two elections tbh. This is deeper than preference deals.
 

Starfighter

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I'd like to congratulate Dan Andrews for his handling of the coronavirus. After having the toughest restrictions initially Vic is now the only area it is a major problem. Now we must have billions more in waste and the freedom of millions curtailed because your mates rates security guys couldn't do their jobs and you were letting people simply opt out of the whole 'test and trace' thing and aren't bothered to make it work again. But it's everyone else's fault. Of course the Victorian Stockholm syndrome (and feckless opposition) means you'll win the next election by a landslide.

The dollar going back towards 60c will certainly please the head-in-clouds know-nothings at the RBA though, as they hate the idea of ordinary workers having purchasing power.
 
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duffer

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I genuinely know people who consider the Greens to be the One Nation of the left. It would make me laugh if it wasn't so distressing.
 

Burgey

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I don't think so. I don't believe it was ever the intention to do that, or that anything has changed.

Not that you'd know from the PM, he hasn't had a presser last week. I don't know whether he's been on holiday or if he's just been sulking since Eden Monaro. Either way he's a ****.
 

Burgey

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It's a bit odd for the PM to use this presser to make an announcement about increasing aged care places, but I suppose you do these things as and when you can.
 

Burgey

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Remember this from a noted CW imbo when this all kicked off? Said Albo was being too political when for suggesting Jobkeeper should be extended too

The left are desperately trying to gain political advantage in a pandemic.
But not a word about State Libs and the way they've carried on since March, selectively verbally abusing Premiers as they go. What a monstrous lightweight.
 

Prince EWS

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TNT has been perma'd. Are allowed to speak ill of the perma'd?
I'm going to go with yes, as long as you don't avoid the filter or say anything he could sue us for.

EDIT: Oh also, preferably not in this thread. Do it in Ban Announcement Questions or something.
 

Burgey

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TNT has been perma'd. Are allowed to speak ill of the perma'd?
Bugger. I was putting that up to try to provoke him into getting perma'ed but the damage had already been done - it was a slow phone hearing and I wanted to do something a bit more entertaining. What was the post which did it?
 

Redbacks

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I don't think we are aiming for elimination at the expense of all other considerations:

1) because the experts in the field have said from early on that's almost impossible
2) It would require such a tight lockdown we would probably experience a great depression and lose more lives in the process
3) we are importing know cases from overseas travellers

I think if we had shut the border even to citizens overseas then we'd be close to elimination of community transmission by now, I think asymptomatic cases bubbling below the surface means we really can't be sure it's ever gone.
 
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