Victor Ian
Well-known member
Great sucks. It is just so variable. Anderson is a great player. Ponting was a great player. Bradman was a great player.
How do others distinguish between players? Obviously, there is all-time-great, but even that is variable. Just how many All time Greats can there be. I'd imagine there are near 100 of these guys running around now. Is there another word for great that should be used when describing Bradman, Marshal, Hadlee Viv, etc, and a lesser form of great that can be used for Anderson, Mitch, Bell, Cook, etc. With limited vocabulary I'd call these guys good, but that seems like almost an insult rather than a plaudit.
I think a grading of words is needed where the following applies.
Level 1 word - There are only 40 to 50 of these guys. Over time certain players stop being regarded as level 1 to make room for others rather than everyone joining the club as we seem to have done with the 2000's batsmen.
Level 2 word - This is what we really mean by guys like all those batsmen of the 2000s and a plethora of bowlers who you would never have in your all time 11 but were f'in awesome nevertheless.
Level 3 word - this is for Anderson and co. Guys who were very very very f'in good - Good enough to play until they retired or reached osteoporosis rather than being told to move on for someone else.
Level 4 word - these players are better than those who just made it. Lyon is one of these. These guys hand around for a full career too, but other factors helped them get there.
Ideas?
How do others distinguish between players? Obviously, there is all-time-great, but even that is variable. Just how many All time Greats can there be. I'd imagine there are near 100 of these guys running around now. Is there another word for great that should be used when describing Bradman, Marshal, Hadlee Viv, etc, and a lesser form of great that can be used for Anderson, Mitch, Bell, Cook, etc. With limited vocabulary I'd call these guys good, but that seems like almost an insult rather than a plaudit.
I think a grading of words is needed where the following applies.
Level 1 word - There are only 40 to 50 of these guys. Over time certain players stop being regarded as level 1 to make room for others rather than everyone joining the club as we seem to have done with the 2000's batsmen.
Level 2 word - This is what we really mean by guys like all those batsmen of the 2000s and a plethora of bowlers who you would never have in your all time 11 but were f'in awesome nevertheless.
Level 3 word - this is for Anderson and co. Guys who were very very very f'in good - Good enough to play until they retired or reached osteoporosis rather than being told to move on for someone else.
Level 4 word - these players are better than those who just made it. Lyon is one of these. These guys hand around for a full career too, but other factors helped them get there.
Ideas?