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Taxation is theft and the 'Self' is all that matters

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
This is the nicest thing you've ever said to me



Going to regret this as I just said I wouldn't get into a debate, but...

The NHS is the best example. If I purchased a private healthcare plan I would still pay the same amount of taxes. So I'd effectively be paying twice. Plus most private packages in the UK are designed to compliment rather than replace the NHS. So of I am sick it is very difficult for me to go another route.

Similarly I am not going to find a private bin collector and I will be unable to get where I need to via private roads because these services are monopolised by the state.

You don't have to agree with my world view and I am not interested on this fine day in debating it, but because the state is all-pervasive it is not possible to avoid utilising their services,
You could live in the mountains by yourself and absolutely minimize the interaction with the state if you truly believed it was criminal and/or immoral.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Well I believe that the state owns all your labor and can collectively pay you a portion of what it owns based on collective needs of the society.
 

Gnske

Well-known member
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Well-known member
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Burgey

Well-known member
This is the nicest thing you've ever said to me



Going to regret this as I just said I wouldn't get into a debate, but...

The NHS is the best example. If I purchased a private healthcare plan I would still pay the same amount of taxes. So I'd effectively be paying twice. Plus most private packages in the UK are designed to compliment rather than replace the NHS. So of I am sick it is very difficult for me to go another route.

Similarly I am not going to find a private bin collector and I will be unable to get where I need to via private roads because these services are monopolised by the state.

You don't have to agree with my world view and I am not interested on this fine day in debating it, but because the state is all-pervasive it is not possible to avoid utilising their services,
What a cop out this post is

Despises the State but avails himself of all its benefits because too hard. No wonder the libertarian movement has got and is going nowhere
 

weldone

Well-known member
Taxation is definitely theft, the kind of theft I 100% approve of.

Not sure I understand the second part of your statement. Are you suggesting that all of us are very selfish, self-centred and don't care about others? That 'empathy' and 'compassion' don't exist? Then I don't agree. Speak for yourself.
As Chomsky once said (and I paraphrase): if you don't think the 90 year-old poor widow living across the river close to your home doesn't deserve to die right now then you are a socialist.
 
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Gnske

Well-known member
Taxation is definitely theft, the kind of theft I 100% approve of.

Not sure I understand the second part of your statement. Are you suggesting that all of us are very selfish, self-centred and don't care about others? That 'empathy' and 'compassion' don't exist? Then I don't agree. Speak for yourself.
Yes. Empathy and compassion are forced lies of convenience that try to divorce us from our true state of being, which is that of self-interest and preservation. Taxation is merely the means through which individualism is infringed upon by corporate suits.

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weldone

Well-known member
Empathy and compassion are forced lies of convenience that try to divorce us from our true state of being, which is that of self-interest and preservation.
Prove it. I don't deny that you are completely self-centred, but when you project that quality of yours on others the burden of proof lies on you.
 
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Gnske

Well-known member
Prove it. I don't deny that you are completely self-centred, but when you project that quality of yours on others the burden of proof lies on you.
Lets say a drug fuelled lunatic abducts 8 nurses and intends to chop them all up with a hand-saw and cast their body parts into a river. You have the power to stop it. Explain why you would want to stop it and why its right to stop it.

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Flem274*

123/5
there is no greater moral good than proving your virtue by crushing the strong and looting his wealth to provide for the common man. uplift your fellow citizens, and together we shall rule this world.
 

Gnske

Well-known member
there is no greater moral good than proving your virtue by crushing the strong and looting his wealth to provide for the common man. uplift your fellow citizens, and together we shall rule this world.
This is a fallacy. Loot wealth from others but do not share. You are the god of your world and leaving others to do your bidding is a misappropriation of resources and time. Life is about control, there is no manifest destiny. You have to grab your situation by the balls and pop them. Mould them into a visage of sweet delight.

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