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The Official Pakistan Politics thread
- Thread starter smalishah84
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
But yes, on a more serious note, echo the above.
smalishah84
The Tiger King
pretty bad bomb going off 
....I hope the casualties don't climb from the already high figure
....I hope the casualties don't climb from the already high figure
smalishah84
The Tiger King
yeah, his party leading at the moment, from the looks of it, it might be a coalition govt possibly
Black_Warrior
Well-known member
Every party has rejected the results though. So the next few days could be shaky. PTI's performance in major MQM/PMLN strongholds will raise eyebrows. Depending on one's ideology, it's evidence for either 1) genuine change in political mindset and awareness of new generation or 2) rigging.
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smalishah84
The Tiger King
There has always been some rigging in almost every election in Pakistan (the most transparent being where the majority seceded from the minority). The only question is how much rigging was done. It was funny reading 2013 tweets from shahbaz and maryam asking Imran to gracefully concede and stop the claims of rigging. Looks like the shoe is on the other foot now. Besides once the elections are done and dusted and a few months down the line the other parties will start preparing for life after elections.
And if Imran manages to do well in his term, who knows, we might see the end of dynastic politics in Pakistan. This might be too much to ask for though.
I do know that my parents went and voted in an election after 40 years, in Karachi. The last time they voted was back when Bhutto was PM in 1977. So yeah, there has definitely been an increase in awareness and interest this time around. Also know a fair number of other people who did this as well.
Black_Warrior
Well-known member
The 'every election has rigging' narrative won't be dominant this time precisely because PTI has won in places considered unwinnable. They have wiped out MQM in Karachi and PMLN in Faisalabad. This is unheard of. In the past, it used to be rigging in the other direction.
Point I'm trying to make is these results will divide people big time.
Point I'm trying to make is these results will divide people big time.
smalishah84
The Tiger King
It already is the dominant narrative. All the other major parties are claiming that elections were rigged. Business as usual, really.
Xuhaib
Well-known member
will it?
Karachi has been over MQM for a while now and it was wide scale rigging that got them all these votes in 2013. I went to vote yesterday and PTI supporters were easily outnumbering others by 10/1 you could see it with the flags and the party colored clothing.
I am really surprised MQM is projected to get these 8-9 seats they were nowhere to be seen yesterday it was all PTI.
smalishah84
The Tiger King
Interestingly enough,
European Union (EU) Election Observation Mission to Pakistan (EOMP) Chief Observer (CO) Michael Gahler has said that the general elections in Pakistan were satisfactory.
Gahler said, “Our observers visited as many as 300 polling stations in 87 constituencies and I have personally visited four polling stations, there is improvement compared to the previous election held in 2013.”
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...factory-says-eu-election-observation-mission/
Black_Warrior
Well-known member
You're preaching to the choir. No one wanted to see them wiped out more than me. But I was referring to public perception and how these things are analysed. Pretty every major publication (whether national or international) has been jumping on the 'rigged' narrative long before the election. A result such as this allows the despicable MQM and PMLN to use it for their benefit..which they are already doing and claim rigging when they have been genuinely wiped out through people's vote.
Xuhaib
Well-known member
don't agree that he is a terror sympathizer. He has his own views in how the taliban problem should be tackled based on his close interaction with the tribal areas people and their mindset, they are not popular with everyone but he has his way of justifying them
Yes his achievements are phenomenal not forgetting his philanthropist work which I believe is quite under rated. 3 world class cancer hospitals where poor are being treated for free is remarkable in itself for a country like Pakistan then the university for the underprivileged and then all the work done by Imran Khan foundation, truly an astonishing man.
OverratedSanity
Well-known member
Xuhaib
Well-known member
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...is-on-verge-of-his-greatest-victory-88t8hm92m
A really high quality piece from Mike Atherton did not know he was following the Pakistan elections so closely.
A really high quality piece from Mike Atherton did not know he was following the Pakistan elections so closely.