Loony BoB
Well-known member
I have received an email from one of our players questioning the way people are being punished, particularly with regards to people who often trade banter between themselves and, when one decides to use an insult, a line is crossed. This player would like to suggest a change so that individuals can trade insults as banter without any fear of punishment, provided both parties are 'dishing it out'.
I've talked with the player a bit regarding this and we agreed that his proposal is as follows:
"When insults are exchanged between two individuals in a manner that ONLY insults the two individuals and no others directly or indirectly (by means of racism and so forth), it should be pardoned as personal banter."
The flaws in this that I can see at the moment are...
1) When is it okay? How do we know when two players are okay with trading insults? Do we assume they are until they report the other player, or do we assume they are not until they let us know they are alright with things? Is it up to the players involved to do the reporting or can someone else report abuse towards other players? What happens if a player 'assumes' that it was okay to insult someone but the person they insulted did not like it? What happens when someone was okay originally with things that were being said, but then someone insulted them in a way that they thought was going too far, and decided to report them anyway? How far can these insults go?
2) Reputation. Would this 'allowed abuse' damage the reputation of the CW XI Dev League? Would you guys be okay with being around a group of people who are trading insults that you might see as crude? Would it bother you at all?
3) Forums Staff Even if this was considered to be okay, obviously the forums staff can decide if someone is crossing the line from tolerable to intolerable when it comes to what they say in their posts. It's possible that James and his staff might not want people to be able to insult each other in such a way.
I would appreciate it if everyone could discuss the proposal and the questions that are posed regarding it in this thread. If most of you are in favour of this proposal then I will pass it on to the captains and CWBCC to discuss further, but for now I'd like to see if this is what the players want - and if the forums will actually allow for it.
I've talked with the player a bit regarding this and we agreed that his proposal is as follows:
"When insults are exchanged between two individuals in a manner that ONLY insults the two individuals and no others directly or indirectly (by means of racism and so forth), it should be pardoned as personal banter."
The flaws in this that I can see at the moment are...
1) When is it okay? How do we know when two players are okay with trading insults? Do we assume they are until they report the other player, or do we assume they are not until they let us know they are alright with things? Is it up to the players involved to do the reporting or can someone else report abuse towards other players? What happens if a player 'assumes' that it was okay to insult someone but the person they insulted did not like it? What happens when someone was okay originally with things that were being said, but then someone insulted them in a way that they thought was going too far, and decided to report them anyway? How far can these insults go?
2) Reputation. Would this 'allowed abuse' damage the reputation of the CW XI Dev League? Would you guys be okay with being around a group of people who are trading insults that you might see as crude? Would it bother you at all?
3) Forums Staff Even if this was considered to be okay, obviously the forums staff can decide if someone is crossing the line from tolerable to intolerable when it comes to what they say in their posts. It's possible that James and his staff might not want people to be able to insult each other in such a way.
I would appreciate it if everyone could discuss the proposal and the questions that are posed regarding it in this thread. If most of you are in favour of this proposal then I will pass it on to the captains and CWBCC to discuss further, but for now I'd like to see if this is what the players want - and if the forums will actually allow for it.