4th Test at Old Trafford, Manchester

[Spark]

You think Warner's punishment was unjust? As in unduly long? I can't follow the logic. I'm all for the booing of him, he brought the game into massive disrepute and on top of that, was so spineless he got others to do it for him. I hated the personal rubbish on him in SA but he can cop all this latest stuff.

I think the logic is that it was far out of proportion compared to other ball tampering related punishments in the past, sometimes the quite recent past.

 

[SteveNZ]

Should never have got 12 months. Ridiculous.

Less? My goodness. Can't at all imagine the reasoning

Never mind, we can include this series as part of an extended ban given his contributions.

 

[TheJediBrah]

You think Warner's punishment was unjust? As in unduly long? I can't follow the logic

lol wut

How many ball tamperers have been banned for a year before or since?

Would you not find any issue with putting someone behind bars for 20 years for jaywalking?

 

[SteveNZ]

I think the logic is that it was far out of proportion compared to other ball tampering related punishments in the past, sometimes the quite recent past.

Then perhaps the others are unjustifiably weak in punishment and they finally found a near just outcome with lil Davey.

Anyway, on with the game. Jason Roy hits a boundary and no doubt is currently picturing himself winning the Ashes.

 

[SteveNZ]

lol wut

How many ball tamperers have been banned for a year before or since?

Would you not find any issue with putting someone behind bars for 20 years for jaywalking?

Unsure, don't care. I'd prefer to judge Davey in isolation.

And I've come to like your posting stylings but that analogy is Moeen Ali Ashes-level bad.

 

[Spark]

Then perhaps the others are unjustifiably weak in punishment and they finally found a near just outcome with lil Davey.

Anyway, on with the game. Jason Roy hits a boundary and no doubt is currently picturing himself winning the Ashes.

Sure but no one has made this argument seriously, like, ever. Maybe because it's an argument which falls apart after two seconds' thought. Oh no, you stepped on a ball, that's you out for a year of your career.

 

[quincywagstaff]

What a shock, Warne talking about England needing 'intent'.

They're zero chance of chasing this down; just stonewall.

 

[SteveNZ]

Sure but no one has made this argument seriously, like, ever. Maybe because it's an argument which falls apart after two seconds' thought. Oh no, you stepped on a ball, that's you out for a year of your career.

Wowza, where is this arsenal of awful analogies coming from? First we're jaywalking now we're stepping on a ball? And that ties into purposely altering the state of the ball and getting your less experienced team mate to take the fall how?

 

[Spikey]

You think Warner's punishment was unjust? As in unduly long? I can't follow the logic. I'm all for the booing of him, he brought the game into massive disrepute and on top of that, was so spineless he got others to do it for him. I hated the personal rubbish on him in SA but he can cop all this latest stuff.

doesnt make much sense this

 

[Spark]

Wowza, where is this arsenal of awful analogies coming from? First we're jaywalking now we're stepping on a ball? And that ties into purposely altering the state of the ball and getting your less experienced team mate to take the fall how?

"Stepping on a ball" aka purposely altering the state of the ball aka ball tampering. Craig Overton did it by accident in this game, ripped big chunks out of the ball and immediately led to a ball change.

People have been scrutinised for this before, including a bowler playing in this Test match.

 

[morgieb]

Surprised that Paine didn’t review that one.

 

[GIMH]

Take it to the David Warner thread

 

[SteveNZ]

Hmm ok, I'm going to need a neutral to tell me I'm not making any sense before I register that I'm not making sense.

Again, I cannot see why precious seconds were poured into typing about Craig Overton stepping on a ball as compared to a person intentionally cheating the laws of the game and being such a weak prick that he made someone else do it - because he knew it was wrong and wasn't prepared to own the decision. And being a spineless prick should always be factored into the punishment.

 

[Spark]

I give up

 

[SteveNZ]

Take it to the David Warner thread

Can't bring myself to click on the words 'David Warner'.

I'll hand it to Jason Roy, he looks every inch the confident Test cricketer before the game, after the game, before balls and after balls despite not looking particularly anywhere near it during the actual facing of the ball.

 

[aussie tragic]

Need to bring Starc on against these two tailenders

 

[Spikey]

Hmm ok, I'm going to need a neutral to tell me I'm not making any sense before I register that I'm not making sense.

Again, I cannot see why precious seconds were poured into typing about Craig Overton stepping on a ball as compared to a person intentionally cheating the laws of the game and being such a weak prick that he made someone else do it - because he knew it was wrong and wasn't prepared to own the decision. And being a spineless prick should always be factored into the punishment.

wha?

 

[SteveNZ]

I give up

Sorry we couldn't quite get there. I'll go to bed genuinely puzzled at how far apart in reality our thoughts clearly are (and in no way saying mine are correct).

 

[Neptune]

Starc will bugger these 2. Roy will be bowled and Denly will nick one. Watch.

 

[SteveNZ]

wha?

Never mind. I'm genuinely confused as to which part I have wrong but we'll push on.