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Assange arrested

Ausage

Well-known member
A guy who has the entire deep state after him refusing to leave an embassy isn't evidence in unrelated rape accusations. That's incredibly stupid.

Not to say there isn't other evidence mind.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
The deep state has nothing to do with Assange. The state quite literally and openly wants him.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
The truth, as ever, is somewhere in between IMO. The conspiracy theory that there’s this active government-within-a-government conspiring to impose its will secretly on the nation and the world is farcically silly, but clearly there is a semi-permanent administrative institution that has its own imperatives and influences. It’s just not very organised, or singular.

Certainly within America, the original application of the idea of “deep state” - the quite powerful domination of the Turkish military over 60s - 80s Turkish politics - doesn’t really apply.
 

Maximas

Well-known member
The rape charge began with the 2 women contracting STDs from him and asking authorities to have him tested
 

Ausage

Well-known member
The truth, as ever, is somewhere in between IMO. The conspiracy theory that there’s this active government-within-a-government conspiring to impose its will secretly on the nation and the world is farcically silly, but clearly there is a semi-permanent administrative institution that has its own imperatives and influences. It’s just not very organised, or singular.
I don't think this is as true post Trump though. I don't think it applies to the "intelligence communities" either.
 

Bahnz

Well-known member
Assange always struck me as having a genuine personality disorder of some sort. He comes across as almost cartoonishly paranoid in Laura Poitras Risk (even for a guy that trades in government secrets) and his alleged comments that informants for the US in the War on Terror deserved to die for their collaboration are pretty heinous.

None of which means he deserves to rot in a US prison cell for 150 years, of course.
 

Redbacks

Well-known member
He believed in a bit of a Utopian fantasy world where by giving everyone no secrecy, corruption would be removed from society. Especially if every 'bad actor' was aware of the fact that what they communicated could be traced, then the planning of corrupt activity would be impossible.

e.g. the democrats in the last election.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
He believed in a bit of a Utopian fantasy world where by giving everyone no secrecy, corruption would be removed from society. Especially if every 'bad actor' was aware of the fact that what they communicated could be traced, then the planning of corrupt activity would be impossible.

e.g. the democrats in the last election.
Everyone except totalitarian autocrats, that is. They can keep their secrets but Steve Jobs can't keep his medical records private, apparently.
 
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