g8 time for reform?

[stuarty]

G8 Current members
Canada
France
Germany
Italy
Japan
Russia
UK
USA

WHAT IT SHOULD BE
China
France
Germany
India
Japan
Russia
UK
USA

time it had promotion and relegation like in football league in order to keep it containing the countries which best meet the original criteria for being a member..

Organisations die when they become irrelevant. That is what is happening to the G8 which, for reasons I can’t understand, continues to exclude China [china being the third most powerful country in the world} in favour of Canada or Italy is insulting.

YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE

 

[Burgey]

Hi stuarty,

Interesting topic, however, I think the best place for it probably the News/ Politics subbie. Can a mod move it there please, so Ikki can bombard the thread with hour-long YouTube pieces?

Cheers,
TBT

 

[stuarty]

ok. China and India both deserve full membership to the G7, while there are no legitimate reasons to grant special status to Italy and Canada.

 

[Athlai]

If China were in it, then what would they all talk about?

 

[cpr]

What youre suggesting is more what the G20 provides, which has pretty much superceeded the G7/8 as the main international forum for economics. The G7 now tends to be more of an old boys club of similar interests and world outlook - still powerful, but not the power in the field.

China and India are unlikely ever to become part of the G7 - whilst the criteria is still economically based, the GDP per capita of both countries is very low which negates the purchasing power through size that China certainly has. Neither country is considered to be particularly developed internally, which wont exactly get them a seat at the table. Also China's government doesn't fit the ethos of the group (hence why Russia were booted)

 

[the big bambino]

It should be the test playing nations with Zimbabwe as an associate and the WI disqualified for not being a fair dinkum country.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Clearly Swaziland is the logical next addition to the G8

 

[GIMH]

It should be abolished

 

[Uppercut]

It should be abolished

Indeed. We need to set up a World Government that can abolish it.

 

[sledger]

Indeed. We need to set up a World Government that can abolish it.

Haha come on, you can do better than this.

 

[Spark]

The G8 (or really the G7) is one of those somewhat dubious organisations whose dubiousness is vastly outweighed by the rancidness of the vast majority of the arguments put against it, most of which are variations on "world leaders shouldn't be allowed to talk to each other".

EDIT: Or Jews. Many of these arguments are basically poor veiled variations on "Jooooooooooooooz!"

 

[StephenZA]

Sometimes an old boys club is not a bad thing.....

 

[Uppercut]

Haha come on, you can do better than this.

Haha as trolls go it's sub-standard, but how else would you abolish it? At most it could be disbanded.

 

[Spark]

Haha as trolls go it's sub-standard, but how else would you abolish it? At most it could be disbanded.

I mean you could "abolish" it, but then it would presumably go back to the way it was before (pre-war, and particularly pre-WW1) and... that's not exactly an improvement.

 

[Uppercut]

I mean you could "abolish" it, but then it would presumably go back to the way it was before (pre-war, and particularly pre-WW1) and... that's not exactly an improvement.

Well yeah but the same is true of abolishing government and that's GIMH's central political opinion.

I mean more as a matter of practicality, who would have the power to abolish it? Only an even more centralised supra-national body.

 

[Flem274*]

Illuminati

 

[andruid]

Sut it down and focus on the UNI Security Council

 

[GIMH]

Pure pedantry here, jeeeeeeez louise