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hendrix

hendrix

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It came from the Najd region of Saudi Arabia in the 1740s, and is the brain-child of the Islamic scholar Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab. We can thank him for ISIS and much of the blood-shed that goes on in the Middle East today.



You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia*|*Alastair Crooke
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The liberties taken in this article...Pretty much like reading England's ancient weirdo laws that still exist today and transposing them to today's society.

Wahhab, Sunni...So shocking for us to come across a people who shun alcohol and promiscuity.
 
hendrix

hendrix

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and actually we can directly thank the US for ISIS, btw. We don't have to go back to the 1300s.
 
watson

watson

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hendrix said:
and actually we can directly thank the US for ISIS, btw. We don't have to go back to the 1300s.
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Why There Is No Stopping the Funding of the Islamic State

The governments of Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia have for many years funded anti-Shia political and military movements in the Middle East without any substantial resistance from the international community. After the Islamic State (Daesh) morphed into the monster that is has become, and the group was widely condemned by governments around the world, these nations either stopped or substantially reduced their official funding of the organization. Yet, wealthy individuals in these countries picked up where the governments left off. Daesh continues to be funded from sources within these countries unabated.

The original intention of the governments of Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia in deciding to provide funding for Daesh was simple: covertly fund an organization that promoted their collective anti-Shia regional agenda while maintaining plausible deniability with regard to their involvement. While the leaders of these governments could not have predicted what Daesh would turn into, they have failed to implement and enforce regulations that would prevent their citizens from funding Daesh.......

Why There Is No Stopping the Funding of the Islamic State | Daniel Wagner
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AndyZaltzHair

AndyZaltzHair

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On top of all the fundings, they have grown into self sustaining terrorist organization with stronghold of oil depots and oil production. Plus they continue to collect "taxes" from citizens within Raqqa, Mosul etc. Also the ancient artifacts that they are selling into black markets and looted number of banks over the years. Their net worth is estimated at 2 billion US dollar making them the richest ever terrorist group.
 
hendrix

hendrix

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Mate it's public knowledge that Isis is made up of:

A) deposed Saddam generals.

B) Anti Bashar, anti-socialist "rebels". Funded by th US in 2011.

Both of those are direct consequences of US policy. Even after Saddam was deposed the US decided not to reintegrate, but rather completely disband and alienate the Iraq army.

Saudi Arabia's interventions have been in line with US policy. Again, they weren't fans of a socialist (albeit corrupt) government.

Yes there are religious and ethnic divisions that have been reinforced - notably the Kurds have been the strongest resistance.

But to most people - whatever their religion, they simply don't want to die.

I don't know why I'm having this conversation with you given your proven racism.
 
watson

watson

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Since RTB mentioned The Daily Beast...

America's Allies Are Funding ISIS

But in the years they were getting started, a key component of ISIS’s support came from wealthy individuals in the Arab Gulf States of Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Sometimes the support came with the tacit nod of approval from those regimes; often, it took advantage of poor money laundering protections in those states, according to officials, experts, and leaders of the Syrian opposition, which is fighting ISIS as well as the regime.

“Everybody knows the money is going through Kuwait and that it’s coming from the Arab Gulf,” said Andrew Tabler, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Kuwait’s banking system and its money changers have long been a huge problem because they are a major conduit for money to extremist groups in Syria and now Iraq.”

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has been publicly accusing Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding ISIS for months. Several reports have detailed how private Gulf funding to various Syrian rebel groups has splintered the Syrian opposition and paved the way for the rise of groups like ISIS and others.

Gulf donors support ISIS, the Syrian branch of al Qaeda called the al Nusrah Front, and other Islamic groups fighting on the ground in Syria because they feel an obligation to protect Sunnis suffering under the atrocities of the Assad regime. Many of these backers don’t trust or like the American backed moderate opposition, which the West has refused to provide significant arms to.

America's Allies Are Funding ISIS - The Daily Beast
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This Middle Eastern conflict is your classic piece of religious sectarian violence, and it has just spilt over into Paris.
 
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