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Looking back on the Hollioake experiment 20 odd years later

mr_mister

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It's always seemed to me a weird little blip on the radar of modern English cricket - so desperate in the middle of the '97 ashes they plucked not one, but two brothers out of relative obscurity to make their test debuts? In hindsight and without the full story it seems a funky idea to say the least. Wouldn't only one getting their debut make more sense? Were they really the best 2 men for the job?

Both slotted in basically identical roles, batting 6 and 7 and contributing handy but largely innocuous medium pace. A little bit more expected from Adam with the bat and Ben with the ball, but essentially their role could have been condensed to one all-rounder and another specialist bat or keeper could have been given the reigns instead for the other spot. It almost feels like not knowing which one to omit/choose lead to a selection policy of **** it, pick 'em both - maybe the fact they're brothers will help morale or team chemistry somehow - or give each of of them that extra bit of confidence knowing they're in it together.

The reality of course is slightly less crazy. In the 3 ODIs played in the lead-up to this series, Adam made his first ever impact internationally. He'd debuted the previous season but done very little - here he scored unbeaten fifties in the first 2 games to help England get victories. So for the third match, a dead-rubber, selectors thought **** it let's throw his brother in. This was a much more Labuschagne-style selection, Ben was young, had never scored a domestic ton and despite a 5fer in his very first domestic game he'd yet to secure another one in over 20 matches.

But he came in at number 3 and blasted a very famous fifty, against McGrath, Warne and Gillespie - and England won the series 3-0.

A player picked on potential and passing the eye test rather than any suitable achievements somehow produced a thrilling knock and the 2 Hollioakes suddenly were in the spotlight. Ben and Adam would both only get 1 more fifty each in 25 more ODIs for Adam and 19 more for Ben - and neither did much of note with the ball internationally. Adam did famously get to captain his country for a short stint too - and in the process got the reputation of the savvier but less naturally talented Hollioake while Ben was meant to be the one with a real future - Ben was still getting to play ODIs just a few months before his death in '02 - Adam never played again after the '99 WC loss.


In their actual test debut, scores of 45,2 for Adam and 28,2 for Ben to go with 2 wickets each for the match was not in anyway a terrible performance - though maybe if it came from one player it'd have been a little more impressive. Ben only got to play 1 more test and Adam 3.


So who was the better of the 2 brothers? And was their joint test debut a really strange decision in hindsight or a reasonable one?
 
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mr_mister

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My bad - I did 90% of my research right but missed out on that. I always find it more interesting to study batting performances than bowling. But yeah it seems he had a decent ODI bowling record. Kind of like the English Ian Harvey maybe?

Seems very odd though as Ben had the far superior FC bowling record.
 
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mr_mister

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I think there was a sentiment he was unfairly treated - Mark Ealham was doing a better job as a bowler at least and then Flintoff came along - but I think England didn't mind 2-3 all-rounders per game in the late 90s anyway

He was swept aside along with a few others after the '99 losing WC campaign but he only got one dig in that tournament anyway
 

TheJediBrah

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They had a lot of "all-rounders" but I don't know if any of them were much good. Add to the list Alleyne, Matthew Fleming, Craig White, Ronnie Irani and probably more. Almost like they were trying to unearth the next Botham so started plucking no-rounders out of county cricket.

we'll never know how good Ben could have been
 

Line and Length

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Two possible trains of thought behind their selection.

Firstly, England was desperately searching for the next Botham.
"Almost like they were trying to unearth the next Botham so started plucking no-rounders out of county cricket."
(sorry TJB - I missed your post)

Secondly, both lads were born in Australia to Australian parents before moving to England in the mid '80s. Perhaps the selectors feared they might be snared by Australia.
 
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TheJediBrah

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Secondly, both lads were born in Australia to Australian parents before moving to England in the mid '80s. Perhaps the selectors feared they might be snared by Australia.
Hmm very possible, wonder if they're related to Rex Hollioake, a great of Ballarat cricket (country Victoria)
 

mr_mister

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Giles could bat too - was why he played so many Tests.

Even Gough was a handy #9 or so.

yeah i realised that after posting haha. Both Giles and Croft's abilty to bat kept Tufnell and Such from playing more games and Gough had that next-Botham moniker after his debut 60 odd

so basically they were selecting teams at this stage like I make sides on International Cricket Captain - trying to bat down to 11 and having as many bowling options as possible
 

mr_mister

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Gee that was a weird ODI on both sides.

Vaas at 3, Jayawardene at 6, and Ataputtu at 7. Sheesh.
The Vaas thing was as a pinch hitting role I guess. Brendan Julian batted 3 once that series for Australia


And Jayawardene was just the token rookie having to bat at 6 before he was good enough to bat higher. De Silva and Ranatunga weren't gonna bat below him when he was 20
 
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ataraxia

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The Vaas thing was as a pinch hitting role I guess. Brendan Julian batted 3 once that series for Australia


And Jayawardene was just the token rookie having to bat at 6 before he was good enough to bat higher. De Silva and Ranatunga weren't gonna bat below him when he was 20
Yeah but still weird in the whole context of things.

Ataputtu though is still in a weird position, especially in the middle of his career? Just 7 times he batted at 7 in ODIs. HowSTAT! ODI Cricket - Marvan Atapattu - Batting Analysis by Batting Position
 
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Line and Length

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Hmm very possible, wonder if they're related to Rex Hollioake, a great of Ballarat cricket (country Victoria)
Wikipedia points out that "Hollioake was born in Melbourne in 1971 and grew up in the mining town of Ballarat, where his family had lived for five generations." so I imagine that it is more than probable.

Adam moved back to Australia after his retirement and I believe he is now involved in coaching - possibly back in the UK.

As an aside, Ben's death was a real tragedy. I regularly drive past the spot where he crashed his Porsche.
 
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TheJediBrah

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Yeah but still weird in the whole context of things.

Ataputtu though is still in a weird position, especially in the middle of his career? Just 7 times he batted at 7 in ODIs. HowSTAT! ODI Cricket - Marvan Atapattu - Batting Analysis by Batting Position
Nah not really. I saw Atapattu bat in the middle a bit, like #5 ish, in ODIs while Jayasuriya opened with Kalu or some other random.

In this game Vaas going up to 3 pushes everyone down and then it only takes Atapattu and Jayawardene to swap and he's at 7
 

GoodAreasShane

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This was a much more Labuschagne-style selection
Except Labuschagne himself wasn't a "Labuschagne-style selection" as you put it at all. It is often forgotten he was second on the Shield runs list the season before that UAE tour, so to say he completely came out of left field simply isn't accurate
 

ataraxia

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An excerpt from a different article:
"If you have not heard by now, the Hollioake family go back five generations in Ballarat, the gold mining town outside Melbourne, where great uncle Rex bowled out Tom Graveney when the MCC were touring in 1955. The boys` father, John, was a good club player who might have been rather better had he not been so devoted to ensuring a smooth path for the boys, and whose life as an engineer brought him to England, where the boys settled."
 
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