RossTaylorsBox
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No, their entire purpose is to get better working conditions for their members. Do you think them getting a pay rise means they're taking money away from solution architects or something?
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The Australian politics thread
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Spark
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If that "one section" is their membership, then yes that is the point of a union. Not like anyone else is.
Burgey
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Lol imagine getting your nose out of joint when health workers and teachers - people entrusted with the sick and our kids - want a pay rise in an environment where they’ve both never been more important and when their own well being is in issue as they just go about their daily jobs. Fmd they’ve been stiffed for decades.
Shady Slim
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i know the big short is iffy at best when it comes to political lessons but one of the great lines of the movie is right at the end when they're cynically recapping how everyone involved in the gfc in the banking sector got off more or less scott free and how the government and the people "blamed immigrants and poor people... this time even teachers!!"
anyway i just decided to share this in this thread for no reason at all and definitely not for the tact our government has decided to roll with in recent weeks
anyway i just decided to share this in this thread for no reason at all and definitely not for the tact our government has decided to roll with in recent weeks
Shady Slim
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and as the forum’s men of honour predicted, morrison begins to roll out his plan to redo workchoices while state lib implements phase one of covid austerity
absolutely the most pathetically predictable thing to come of this ordeal
absolutely the most pathetically predictable thing to come of this ordeal
Burgey
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https://chaser.com.au/national/morr...workchoices-with-jobmaker-on-new-legislation/
Chaser lads doing some good work lately
https://chaser.com.au/national/struggling-cafe-owner-set-for-life-after-josh-frydenberg-buys-sandwich-for-200-million/
Chaser lads doing some good work lately
https://chaser.com.au/national/struggling-cafe-owner-set-for-life-after-josh-frydenberg-buys-sandwich-for-200-million/
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Burgey
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What an abomination this is...
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...pation-and-its-completely-legal-to-blow-it-up
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...pation-and-its-completely-legal-to-blow-it-up
Line and Length
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There’s no doubt in my mind that COVID-19 has had an enormous impact, not only on our lives but on our perception of political leaders. Currently our PM and (some) State Premiers are enjoying unprecedented high approval ratings. To a large extent that is because, in comparison with other countries and their political leaders, we are very much the lucky country. To what extent is that “luck” due to good management? Or is it due to other factors? There is no doubt that border closures and control are easier for an island nation and having a relatively small population spread over a large area would mean a less rapid spread of a pandemic.
Here in WA, Labor Premier Mark McGowan is enjoying huge public support and approval. With very few active cases and virtually no new cases (apart from those arriving in Fremantle via a live export ship) the situation seems to justify the strict measures put in place. The occasional ineffectual bleating from the State Opposition largely falls on deaf ears – apart from those in the hospitality and tourist industries who want to see a faster easing of restrictions.
At a Federal level, Scott Morrison is enjoying the widest approval rating (68%) for a PM in more than a decade. I would argue that much of that approval is because, in comparison with overseas leaders such as Trump, Johnson and Brazil’s Bolsonaro, he appears effective in dealing with the pandemic. The Opposition has appeared ineffectual even irrelevant at this time. The miscalculated JobKeeper funding figures would normally create an uproar but many have seen it as an economic blessing. Even the ACTU, one of Labor’s staunchest political allies, appears to co-operating with the Government. Industrial Relations Minister Christian Porter going as far as to describe ACTU Secretary Sally McManus his "best friend for now".
Regardless of political persuasion, the current situation has resulted in positive reactions to both State and Federal Governments with Oppositions, perhaps wisely, keeping a relatively low key. There have been clashes between states over border restrictions but the only Federal comments of consequence have come from Peter Dutton who, in most people’s eyes, is too much of a loose cannon and too right-wing in his views. Others who make threats of legal proceedings, such as Pauline Hansen and Clive Palmer, are held in scorn by the majority of people.
The global pandemic has treated Australia relatively kindly health wise and this is foremost in the public’s mind – especially when viewing overseas situations. In the current climate politics very much takes a back seat.
Here in WA, Labor Premier Mark McGowan is enjoying huge public support and approval. With very few active cases and virtually no new cases (apart from those arriving in Fremantle via a live export ship) the situation seems to justify the strict measures put in place. The occasional ineffectual bleating from the State Opposition largely falls on deaf ears – apart from those in the hospitality and tourist industries who want to see a faster easing of restrictions.
At a Federal level, Scott Morrison is enjoying the widest approval rating (68%) for a PM in more than a decade. I would argue that much of that approval is because, in comparison with overseas leaders such as Trump, Johnson and Brazil’s Bolsonaro, he appears effective in dealing with the pandemic. The Opposition has appeared ineffectual even irrelevant at this time. The miscalculated JobKeeper funding figures would normally create an uproar but many have seen it as an economic blessing. Even the ACTU, one of Labor’s staunchest political allies, appears to co-operating with the Government. Industrial Relations Minister Christian Porter going as far as to describe ACTU Secretary Sally McManus his "best friend for now".
Regardless of political persuasion, the current situation has resulted in positive reactions to both State and Federal Governments with Oppositions, perhaps wisely, keeping a relatively low key. There have been clashes between states over border restrictions but the only Federal comments of consequence have come from Peter Dutton who, in most people’s eyes, is too much of a loose cannon and too right-wing in his views. Others who make threats of legal proceedings, such as Pauline Hansen and Clive Palmer, are held in scorn by the majority of people.
The global pandemic has treated Australia relatively kindly health wise and this is foremost in the public’s mind – especially when viewing overseas situations. In the current climate politics very much takes a back seat.
Line and Length
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morgieb
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Basically I had to pay about $2000 back to the federal government through RoboDebt which I had received through government concessions, but now I'm getting it back following a class action suit.
So yes. Though of course I was getting free money beforehand.
Gnske
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I can scarcely think of any legislation for cultural heritage provisions that isn't extremely outdated. NSW being the best of the lot is like commending a man for drowning last on the Titanic, if the project is big enough you can bypass needing an impact permit altogether which as a developer would require that in-depth community consultation for department of planning / other authorities to sign off.
Destroying a 46,000 year old site in any case is absolute piss, the finds a year later aside. I'd like to know what the Minister read that precipitated the granting of consent. Especially given Rio directly employs their own heritage consultants and archaeologists...
Spikey
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article from today: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...-from-this-base-politics-20200529-p54xup.html
basically, the government had robots chase welfare cheats from around 2016 to 2019. problem was, a) it was likely unlawful and b) a ton of people got pinged incorrectly. as I recall from articles in 2017 (shortly after I got pinged and paid up), causals, as I was then, were prime candidates to get ****ed because their average pay packets would go up and down instead of being stable, heightening the chances of the robot ****ing up. but also: because we had found employment, we would pay up quickly to avoid the threat of interest being applied
2018 article: https://www.theguardian.com/austral...bt-program-accused-of-enforcing-illegal-debts
edit i should note, the program started in 2016ish, but it went back in time. i was pinged based on like my 2013 employment history. since the only way to fight back against the debt was to provide proof via pay slips, many people were in a hole, because years had passed and the pay slips had been thrown out
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Flem274*
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how did you not burn parliament to ground? this is cray cray policy.
not surprised to see the so called small government party behaving like the mafia.
Shady Slim
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callous stuff from porter today on abc news refusing to apologise over the robodebt saga but i didn't expect anything else
be interested to see how the class action progresses now wrt damages
be interested to see how the class action progresses now wrt damages