Spikey
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it's wrong though Mitt Romney- Corporations Are People! - YouTubeIt's hardly controversial to say that people are more important than businesses.
it's wrong though Mitt Romney- Corporations Are People! - YouTubeIt's hardly controversial to say that people are more important than businesses.
After a month of listening to Fugazi and reading Counterpunch i redid the test:
Economic Left/Right: -2.25Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03
I've mellowed. Strongly agrees have turned into agrees, and some things I've done about turns on.I thought people became more right-wing as they got older?
Didn't zero hour contracts exist under New Labour? Or are they a new thing? Genuine question btw.Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.74
My swing to the left under Cameron's food-bank, zero-hour hell has been pretty marked.
They did, and TBH they are a good thing for many people who want them. They came about for people that didn't necessarily want to work a full week, because they were semi-retired and/or aren't financially bereft, own their own property, or their partner is working full time, perfectly fine.Didn't zero hour contracts exist under New Labour? Or are they a new thing? Genuine question btw.
Good question, and not one that I've really thought a great deal about it.neil, i get that you are significantly more conservative that you used to be but would you ever consider voting for a republican (think of the current list of candidates and the ones from the recent past) over a democrat if you get to vote in an american election?
Yeah makes sense. I couldn't work on one. I guess in my youth, when I did pub work, my contract always said 4 or 8 hours but I worked 30ish and yet in theory they could just take them and that was always a worry. So I can understand the uncertainty.They did, and TBH they are a good thing for many people who want them. They came about for people that didn't necessarily want to work a full week, because they were semi-retired and/or aren't financially bereft, own their own property, or their partner is working full time, perfectly fine.
Sometimes it was for people on consultancies that earnt enough in one or two days for a week.
Yet this government are hounding people into jobs, clearing them from sickness with ATOS, sanctioning them for unreasonable means to take up these contracts, because they're the main jobs on offer.
All well and good in a way, and TBH we know there's a large percentage of gits in the World who need some kind of motivation, but the problem is these contracts are taken over from proper tax-paying jobs, so you get about 7 or 8 people earning poverty wages rather than two jobs earning good wages which mean they contribute to society with their tax, rather than giving it back in rebates at the end of the year. They all go off the Unemployment list though, so the government looks great on employment
There's no guarantee of any hours, so people have to wait by their phones with no idea how much they'll earn, whether it'll be enough to cover expenses, and because the employers love these (no sick-pay, never be over-manned, not wasting any hours), there's less and less real jobs to go around.
The Post Office (which for those who don't know was privatized under this government, at what most people consider an hugely undervalued price) use these all the time now, for a massive wedge of their work. That brings up the extra issue that the companies who hire the workers are another agency, Angard are the ones doing the PO work, they get a percentage of the wages now, what's the betting they have a link with various government ministers?
It's the Tory way of trying to get around the minimum wage, whilst appeasing the bosses, and taking millions off the job figures but putting many more below the breadline.
So in summary I think they're a pretty bad thing.
Well, Milliband says if you've been working 3 months on one you should get offered a full-time contract, if you don't want one if you want to keep on the zero hours thing (IE getting enough hours for you), then you don't have to take it. Seems a good solution, but hey Politicians promises and I'm not sure of the practicalities.Yeah makes sense. I couldn't work on one. I guess in my youth, when I did pub work, my contract always said 4 or 8 hours but I worked 30ish and yet in theory they could just take them and that was always a worry. So I can understand the uncertainty.