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Top Five Cricketers from each country
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bagapath
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Top 5 for both tests and ODIs
Australia
Ponting
McGrath
Gilchrist
Warne
S. Waugh
India
Tendulkar
Kapil Dev
Kohli
Dhoni
Sehwag
West Indies
Viv Richards
Lara
Ambrose
Garner
Greenidge
Pakistan
Imran
Miandad
Akram
Waqar
Anwar
South Africa
Donald
S. Pollock
ABDV
Amla
Gary Kirsten
Australia
Ponting
McGrath
Gilchrist
Warne
S. Waugh
India
Tendulkar
Kapil Dev
Kohli
Dhoni
Sehwag
West Indies
Viv Richards
Lara
Ambrose
Garner
Greenidge
Pakistan
Imran
Miandad
Akram
Waqar
Anwar
South Africa
Donald
S. Pollock
ABDV
Amla
Gary Kirsten
Not that important. ICC rankings aren't perfect, but they tell a story. Pollock spent more time at the top than anyone else iirc. Lee... not. Pollock had a 150ish point lead on number 2 bowler when he retired. Not sure even Bradman had this type of rankings gap between him and number 2 at any stage. Only garner comparable to pollock if we look at peer/era comparison.
Pap Finn Keighl
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Chappell and Lillee instead of Warne and Waugh.
Gavaskar / Ganguly for Sehwag ..? not sure
Holding or Lloyd or Roberts for Greenidge
Akthar for Anwar
Kallis for Amla
Steyn for Kirsten
smalishah84
The Tiger King
Because default meaning of cricket on cricketweb is test cricket. And he is seen as being in the same conversation as Marshall and McGrath. In fact as a cricketer he is seen as being better than both.
Marshall is just not seen as a great odi bowler, which tbf, he wasn't.
But as far as Odis go there are a number of bowlers he is behind. Like McGrath, wasim, Garner etc
stephen
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Agreed. Great in the gully as well.
h_hurricane
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Hadlee is criminally under-rated. Hard to separate him and Mcgrath/Ambrose. Only a whisker behind Marshall as an ATG bowler. Also, a better cricketer than all of them easily.
If I have to pick an ATG XI, it would have Hadlee,Imran and Marshall. Gives great depth in batting as well. What a decade 1980s was, when all 3 were at their absolute best.
If I have to pick an ATG XI, it would have Hadlee,Imran and Marshall. Gives great depth in batting as well. What a decade 1980s was, when all 3 were at their absolute best.
h_hurricane
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A combination of average,strike rate and being great in all conditions made Marshall a tiny bit ahead of every one else. Hadlee,Mcgrath and Ambrose too have great records in most conditions.
And yes, Joel Garner is really under-rated. His record says he is as good as Mcgrath and Ambrose. May be because his career was shorter and no ten wicket hauls.
And yes, Joel Garner is really under-rated. His record says he is as good as Mcgrath and Ambrose. May be because his career was shorter and no ten wicket hauls.
Burgey
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Hadlee isn’t under rated at all. No one on here ever says anything other than that he belongs in the absolutely highest class of fast bowlers. Literally no one.
Slifer
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Awta
Pap Finn Keighl
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Only few selects him in an AT 11
Pap Finn Keighl
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My top 7 all-time
Sobers
Bradman
WG
Procter
Barnes
Gavaskar
Hadlee
AT 11 ( excluding Barnes and WG )
Gavaskar
Hutton
Bradman
Sachin
Lara
Sobers
Gilly
Procter
Hadlee ( interchangable with Marshall )
Akram
Murali
Imran's fielding is a letdown and less fire power with bat ( only when comparing to a certain Procter )
h_hurricane
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I would go with the below.
Jack Hobbs
Sunil Gavaskar
Don Bradman
Sachin Tendulkar
Vivian Richards
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Malcolm Marshall
Shane Warne
I don't think he is notably underrated as a test bowler by many. Pretty much everyone ranks him in the top handful where he belongs.
He is likely underranked in odis. I dont think any of us know what to do with odi rankings for early players. It ends up as viv + garner of the pre 90s players and the rest get forgotten. I have no idea if Hadlee was the 2nd or 20th best odi quick.
He is definitely underranked as a test player. When his batting is thrown into the mix, there is little reason to consider players like steyn/McGrath as his equal, and many rank them ahead
Pap Finn Keighl
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Who was the better Batsman between Hadlee and S.Pollock ?
Most people rates Hadlee ahead , I think.
Interested to know the reason.
Most people rates Hadlee ahead , I think.
Interested to know the reason.
trundler
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Marshall exemplified all that is good and holy about fast bowling. The lowly spinner is reduced to an unsightly defensive option when conditions do not suit him. The great fast bowler puts on a show regardless. Enough pace to shatter a nose + movement either way any day + accuracy. Marshall has all the tools his rivals boast. And more.