Was Karl Marx the most evil man ever?

[sledger]

If not, he'll take some beating imo.

 

[Anil]

probably not

 

[sledger]

probably not

Belongs in the argument though.

 

[fredfertang]

Duck soup

 

[MW1304]

Was expecting 'No, it's Sachin'. Disappointed.

 

[Spark]

I'm kind of curious though, how many people here have actually read any Marx?

 

[GIMH]

Probably not the most evil himself, but can't think of many indirectly responsible for more deaths

 

[OverratedSanity]

Meryl Streep scares me more

 

[GIMH]

Meryl Streep scares me more

She belongs in the argument for sure

 

[Uppercut]

I'm kind of curious though, how many people here have actually read any Marx?

I've read a bit. Communist Manifesto, bit of Capital and some of his other essays. I think he's overrated, although probably not by sledger.

 

[grecian]

No, not really, saved millions too, as well as the despots that used his views for evil, social care, health, housing has elevated millions, oddly some of the people that now call him evil.

Always going to be the way, but I'm someone old enough to remember when people could separate the totalitarianism of communism with socialism, social care. Like the totalitatarinism of slave-trades, forced colonionisation, sweatshops, countless millions of deaths through hideous working conditions, can seem to be easily seperated from capitalism.

It's a simplistic world the Rand loving people can talk in, which exists because of socialistic and capitalistic ideas, in my honest opinion. Both needed.

 

[Pothas]

Obviously not.

Not that I am in the least be qualified to judge his ideas especially economics. His theory of history is obviously rubbish though, well the very fact he has a theory of history makes that the case.

 

[GIMH]

I was in Liverpool Waterstones at Xmas and perusing the Politics section. Not sure why I bothered, Liverpool is so far left it makes this forum appear centrist by comparison. Anyhow, the highlight was a paperback entitled 'Why Marx Was Right'

Spoiler alert: he wasn't (other than predicting Uber)

 

[Athlai]

I thought Donald Trump was the most evil man ever

 

[Pratters]

Modi is the most evil I have seen.

 

[Ausage]

So to answer Spark's question, I've not read any Marx but my understanding is that his key philosophical points were:

• Humanity should be viewed through a prism of social, racial, religious and cultural (class) groupings
• Civilisation is the interplay of power dynamics between these groups
• Those who own the means of production are engaged in oppression against the working class

Correct me if I'm wrong or missed anything.

I don't know about "most evil", but the above combination of ideas are dangerous because they're both intoxicating/enticing and infinitely destructive when followed through. There's a reason you can in this day and age see people unironically saying "Marx was right" despite him being a primary influence on the majority of the modern history's most brutal regimes.

 

[Redbacks]

Not the most evil man ever, he just dreamt up a faulty economic theory.

 

[Spikey]

So are we excluding religious figures or something.

There's no way Marx is more evil than Stalin or even Linen, let alone outside figures

 

[Spikey]

Martin Luther is clearly the most evil man

 

[Ausage]

There's no way Marx is more evil than Stalin or even Linen, let alone outside figures

I've always had an intense hatred for blankets. Give the bastards a good kicking every night.