Was Karl Marx the most evil man ever?

[hendrix]

Urgh

There's a dot here.

Another dot here.

We could link them up with a straight line, but isn't it more fun to draw a unicorn ****ing a hypogriff in between?

 

[GIMH]

This thread reminds me of a question I’ve been meaning to ask, which is are the left evil or just misguided?

Serious responses only please.

 

[Burgey]

It's just another POV, and you are required to afford it the same level of respect which supposedly open minded, polite and courteous posters on here seem to always give white supremacists and neos, even though they are in no way sympathetic to their views. No Siree, not at all.

 

[Ausage]

About as evil and/or misguided as (most of) their white supremacist statist counterparts. Less the former, more the latter.

They deserve the same kind of treatment too. I don't want them thrown in a cage, but I see no need to pretend they're offering value in the realm of public discourse.

 

[Spark]

"Public healthcare or ethnic cleansing, what's the difference"

 

[Ausage]

It can and regularly has gone well beyond public healthcare. Into various types of "cleansing" even.

Again and again and again.

 

[Spark]

It can and regularly has gone well beyond public healthcare. Into various types of "cleansing" even.

Again and again and again.

Yes, look all around us at Medicare being turned into gulags.

 

[Burgey]

The NHS: denying freedom to Britons since 1946.

 

[Ausage]

Yes, look all around us at Medicare being turned into gulags.

Don't have to look far to see nationalised industry turn into mass starvation and societal collapse though.

Look I'm trolling somewhat, but let's not pretend that's as far as leftisms ever gone.

 

[Spark]

Don't have to look far to see nationalised industry turn into mass starvation and societal collapse though.

Look I'm trolling somewhat, but let's not pretend that's as far as leftisms ever gone.

Yeah, but the argument that there are no distinctions between different schools of thought within such a broad umbrella, or the deliberate eliding of such distinctions, is basically a kind of anti-thinking.

 

[Ausage]

Yeah, but the argument that there are no distinctions between different schools of thought within such a broad umbrella, or the deliberate eliding of such distinctions, is basically a kind of anti-thinking.

Sure but you could make that argument for the ethno types too.

 

[Spark]

Sure but you could make that argument for the ethno types too.

Not if the underlying logic is similar and it's the underlying logic you object to (amongst many other things)

 

[weldone]

If you wouldn't read Mein Kampf you shouldn't read any Marx.

Debate that Marxists

Marx was a thinker. Hitler was a doer. The only way to know a doer is from his actions; the only way to know a thinker is from his writing.

For the same reason, I shall never read any Mao.

 

[sledger]

Marx was a thinker. Hitler was a doer. The only way to know a doer is from his actions; the only way to know a thinker is from his writing.

For the same reason, I shall never read any Mao.

Profound.

 

[GIMH]

The NHS: denying freedom to Britons since 1946.

Correct

 

[Burgey]

Wish the doctors had the freedom to refuse you treatment for a painful bunion.

 

[Ausage]

Wish the doctors had the freedom to refuse you treatment for a painful bunion.

I wish they did too tbh.

 

[sledger]

If they believe it's not in the patient's best interests, or that a type of treatment is contra to their own system of ethics or beliefs, they do tbf.

In the UK anyway.

 

[weldone]

Doctors will get replaced by intelligent robots in a couple of decades.

 

[MrPrez]

Marx was a thinker. Hitler was a doer. The only way to know a doer is from his actions; the only way to know a thinker is from his writing.

For the same reason, I shall never read any Mao.

Reading's for nerds anyway.