Christopher Columbus

[SillyCowCorner1]

He's a waste man.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'm blem for real, I might just say how I feel.

 

[Uppercut]

Genuinely one of the worst people to ever live. Hitler-level awful.

 

[Shri]

 

[smalishah84]

He is still good enough in the US to get people a public holiday for Columbus Day

 

[andruid]

Could he swim?

 

[trundler]

This is boring. Bring back TNT.

 

[GotSpin]

Here come the woke brigade, passing down moral judgement on someone who died 500 years ago while using present day morals as the standard by which to hold them.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Abloo bloo you can't judge someone for wanting to brutally genocide an entire race of humans abloo bloo

 

[Flem274*]

here come the 'tell it like it is' people, claiming todays morals are so far removed from 500 years ago you cannot pass moral judgement on a man while not realising or ignoring the fact most old morals are very recognisable.

colonialism and genocide was spoken out against before the 20th century.

 

[GotSpin]

Tell it like it is people? Wtf are you on about

It's basic historiography. You can't just ignore the context within which the actions were conducted

The most efficient standards to judge someone is by the best standards that were available at the time.

Could he have known any better when economic exploitation and subjugation of others was standard practice 500 years ago?

 

[Burgey]

He could, given the book he’d have been holding and referencing as he kicked it off.

I mean, look at blokes like Pizarro in Peru. Just the ****ing pits, regardless of the time he lived. Bloke was nothing more than bloodthirsty, violet robber-baron

 

[Flem274*]

Tell it like it is people? Wtf are you on about

It's basic historiography. You can't just ignore the context within which the actions were conducted

The most efficient standards to judge someone is by the best standards that were available at the time.

Could he have known any better when economic exploitation and subjugation of others was standard practice 500 years ago?

hahahahaha

the standards at the time were a lot higher than you imply. like, a lot, and had been for a very long time.

go back to the near peak of western power and guys like tacitus had the big dick energy to criticise augustus ****ing caesar and roman imperialism. you do a disservice to our ancestors around the world to assume they were amoral savages who condoned what the likes of columbus did. he knew what he was doing was wrong.

 

[Neptune]

Yeah Columbus is a right ****ing nonce, **** that guy.

 

[Red Hill]

We're at a point in history, surely, when we can just tell the truth about history, as best we can, for everyone's sake.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

hahahahaha

the standards at the time were a lot higher than you imply. like, a lot, and had been for a very long time.

go back to the near peak of western power and guys like tacitus had the big dick energy to criticise augustus ****ing caesar and roman imperialism. you do a disservice to our ancestors around the world to assume they were amoral savages who condoned what the likes of columbus did. he knew what he was doing was wrong.

Also Columbus was literally investigated for atrocities, which is something that happens when it's standard practice.

 

[GotSpin]

hahahahaha

the standards at the time were a lot higher than you imply. like, a lot, and had been for a very long time.

go back to the near peak of western power and guys like tacitus had the big dick energy to criticise augustus ****ing caesar and roman imperialism. you do a disservice to our ancestors around the world to assume they were amoral savages who condoned what the likes of columbus did. he knew what he was doing was wrong.

Now I know you've gone completely bonkers

 

[GotSpin]

Also Columbus was literally investigated for atrocities, which is something that happens when it's standard practice.

And it had nothing to do with the Capitulations of Santa Fe?

 

[Line and Length]

I find all this condemning of historic incidents and people to be carried a step too far. What next? Perhaps tear down the pyramids as the Egyptians used slave labour?

 

[Spikey]

He is still good enough in the US to get people a public holiday for Columbus Day

a fair few states and cities don't observe it anymore and I think the trend will only continue in that direction