33rd Match - England v Bangladesh (9th March)

[wpdavid]

The phrase "useless, useless bastards" is much overused when discussing English sport, but I think one can safely say it applies here.

It's the worst that even England have done in a cricket WC or a CT.

It's far worse than our footballers did in Brazil, or have ever done in a major tournament (possibly excluding the 1988 euros).

Even our rugby sides aren't as embarrassing as this.

We're into pre-Henman tennis territory here, aren't we? When our boys would routinely be knocked out of the Davis Cup by Lithuania or Slovenia iirc.

 

[Contra]

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Look at the passion geez, absolutely love it, they want to face the Aussies in the final!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Guess today is a good day to order a takeaway from a Bangladesh owned establishment, always get more meat in the meal when the cricket team have won.

 

[BoyBrumby]

It's the worst that even England have done in a cricket WC or a CT.

It's far worse than our footballers did in Brazil, or have ever done in a major tournament (possibly excluding the 1988 euros).

Even our rugby sides aren't as embarrassing as this.

We're into pre-Henman tennis territory here, aren't we? When our boys would routinely be knocked out of the Davis Cup by Lithuania or Slovenia iirc.

88 was pretty abject, yeah. The Eire loss was hard to stomach, but we were in the same group as the Netherlands and the old Soviet Union who both made the final, so some vague mitigation there.

Plus, of course, just getting there to an 8 team tournament was almost praiseworthy in itself. We missed out in 84 thanks to an Alan Simonsen pen at Wembley, didn't we? If memory serves we defeated a pretty decent Yugoslavia 4-1 at their shop to secure passage to the 88 finals.

This feels worse.

& the whole tournament was set up to make sure this kind of thing didn't happen.

& yet...

 

[wpdavid]

88 was pretty abject, yeah. The Eire loss was hard to stomach, but we were in the same group as the Netherlands and the old Soviet Union who both made the final, so some vague mitigation there.

Plus, of course, just getting there to an 8 team tournament was almost praiseworthy in itself. We missed out in 84 thanks to an Alan Simonsen pen at Wembley, didn't we? If memory serves we defeated a pretty decent Yugoslavia 4-1 at their shop to secure passage to the 88 finals.

This feels worse.

& the whole tournament was set up to make sure this kind of thing didn't happen.

& yet...

I was at the Wembley game when Denmark knocked us out actually. We were poor, but Denmark were excellent. Phil Neal's clumsy handball for the penalty was a fitting end to his international career iirc.

You're right about the 1988 euros.

Failing to qualify for the 1994 WC felt pretty grim, but we were unlucky in both of the key home matches, as we were in Holland. It was only in Norway where we really stank.

Maybe McClaren's failure to lead us to the 2008 euros was as bad as the footie got.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I'll pay that.

Needing to avoid defeat at home versus an already-qualified Croatia and failing (especially after recovering from 2-0 down to 2-2) has a special place in any lowlight reel of English football ignominy.

 

[Furball]

Haha all I can remember from that game is Syed Rasel getting Kallis out and the commentators going on about beating him for lack of pace. I couldn't even remember the result but I remembered that.

I remember Aftab Ahmed (who I always rated) coming in and smashing the bowling everywhere.

 

[Furball]

Do you know where the various states of India are

All islands IIRC. It's not called the Indian Ocean for nothing.

 

[weldone]

Watched the highlights now - the last wicket of Anderson was pure gold...superb scenes

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Guess today is a good day to order a takeaway from a Bangladesh owned establishment, always get more meat in the meal when the cricket team have won.

Chuffing stuffed now and even though I may regret it at some stage tomorrow it was worth it.

 

[Burgey]

The things I took most out of watching the end part of this game were Butler being a class player and the inability of the other England players to cope with the Bangladeshi seam bowlers in any meaningful sense. That and Jono doing the "not mentioning by name but sticking the needle into known posters while seemingly making innocent posts about their team" thing which disappoints me because I actually patented it.

 

[Jono]

I did it far better. Didn't pick on defenceless Lankans. Went after the big boys and made them wahhh.

 

[GIMH]

Hey, you put me in your signature

That's kinda cute. The I'm here all week kinda mitigates that it was throwaway drivel but I'm flattered nonetheless

 

[zorax]

IDK if it's been said yet but I think it's hilarious that Morgan has been eliminated from the WC before Ireland has been.

 

[Bahnz]

Once England decide to drop him, will Morgan be able to go back to Ireland in the same excellerated time frame that Joyce did? It'll be neat (though highly unlikely) if Ireland were able to get him and Rankin back for the next World Cup.

 

[Jono]

Hey, you put me in your signature

That's kinda cute. The I'm here all week kinda mitigates that it was throwaway drivel but I'm flattered nonetheless

Its genuinely aimed at SS's awesomeness tbh, rather than a shot at you. But I was hoping you'd wahhh more.

 

[Burgey]

I did it far better. Didn't pick on defenceless Lankans. Went after the big boys and made them wahhh.

You can't say England are minnows then claim to have picked on the big boys.

 

[Burgey]

Once England decide to drop him, will Morgan be able to go back to Ireland in the same excellerated time frame that Joyce did? It'll be neat (though highly unlikely) if Ireland were able to get him and Rankin back for the next World Cup.

I don't think they should drop him. He's way out of form, but he's a good LO player generally. The captaincy seems to have cruelled him though.

 

[Jono]

You can't say England are minnows then claim to have picked on the big boys.

Talking GIMH and sledger ffs not England cricket team. But having said that, you raise a good point. If noting that Eng got owned by Banglas fast bowlers sets them off, they have also become minnows.

 

[GIMH]

Sledger was nothing to do with it ffs you just brought him up for no reason