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Air France jet missing over Atlantic, 228 on board
- Thread starter biased indian
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Goughy
Well-known member
Yeah. The worst outcome does not bear thinking about.Hope we have a happy ending
biased indian
Well-known member
Latest update
Air France says the Airbus jet that disappeared en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris sent an automatic signal indicating electrical problems while going through an area of strong turbulence.
Air France says in a statement the plane that carried 228 on board "crossed through a thunderous zone with strong turbulence" at 0200 GMT Monday (10:00 p.m. EDT Sunday).
It says "an automatic message was received at 0214 GMT (10:14 p.m. EDT Sunday) signaling electrical circuit malfunction."
It says the 216 passengers included one infant, seven children, 82 women and 126 men.
It says the plane entered service in 2005 and last underwent maintenance April 16.
not looking good
Air France says the Airbus jet that disappeared en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris sent an automatic signal indicating electrical problems while going through an area of strong turbulence.
Air France says in a statement the plane that carried 228 on board "crossed through a thunderous zone with strong turbulence" at 0200 GMT Monday (10:00 p.m. EDT Sunday).
It says "an automatic message was received at 0214 GMT (10:14 p.m. EDT Sunday) signaling electrical circuit malfunction."
It says the 216 passengers included one infant, seven children, 82 women and 126 men.
It says the plane entered service in 2005 and last underwent maintenance April 16.
not looking good
The Sean
Well-known member
"Lightning strike" and "catastrophic systems failure" are two of the (perhaps related) causes being bandied about...whatever happened the plane would now have run out of fuel regardless, and for there to be no sign of it on any radar is truly worrying.
I would love to be wrong but I can't see any scenario now other than worst-case.
I would love to be wrong but I can't see any scenario now other than worst-case.
Matt79
Global Moderator
You hit water hard enough, it isn't very forgiving. And while it may possibly mean less structural damage to the plane, if you're too far from land, don't have time to ditch into your life rafts, and aren't rescued pretty damn quick, it ain't any better for the people on board...
Athlai
Not Terrible
Not if you're crashing. Plane nose dives into the water it'll disintegrate on impact just like it would on land. And the water landing we saw earlier in the year was on a plane that still had some control on calm waters without much speed. This would be a plane travelling fast, falling from a great height with possibly no control into the Alantic ocean.
Hate to say it but I don't think there is much hope.
Hate to say it but I don't think there is much hope.
Top_Cat
Well-known member
Emergency landing on water is exponentially more difficult. Put it this way; the one into the Hudson was the first non-fatal ditching ever.
EDIT: should add, subject to conditions. Other pilots I've spoken to, type-rated on A320's, have said they'd definitely rather ditch in clear skies than land on a wet night with elevator control after an engine failure, 25kt crosswinds, etc.
EDIT: should add, subject to conditions. Other pilots I've spoken to, type-rated on A320's, have said they'd definitely rather ditch in clear skies than land on a wet night with elevator control after an engine failure, 25kt crosswinds, etc.
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alternative
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That was just plain freakish, but hopefully another freakish one can come through again.
howardj
Well-known member
You're clearing winging it.
Top_Cat
Well-known member
Anticipating massive activity in Airbus's finances if the selling hasn't started already. The first A330 to go down in cruise flight = bad news for shareholders. People were already rattled over what happened over Learmonth a while back, this won't help matters.
No hope for survivors;
Air France plane carrying 228 people disappears in storm over the Atlantic
EDIT: from what I've been hearing through various sources, lightning seems to be a bit of a red herring. A 747 and MD-10 went through the same area this A330 went through before and after, respectively, it disappeared and reported nothing unusual.
The more I hear, the more I'm worried it's a fault with the A330. No comms? Yikes.
No hope for survivors;
Air France plane carrying 228 people disappears in storm over the Atlantic
EDIT: from what I've been hearing through various sources, lightning seems to be a bit of a red herring. A 747 and MD-10 went through the same area this A330 went through before and after, respectively, it disappeared and reported nothing unusual.
The more I hear, the more I'm worried it's a fault with the A330. No comms? Yikes.
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