Feminism thread

[ankitj]

Partially inspired by Dan's posts that refer to ecofeminist anarchosocialism (fmd I got auto complete suggestion as I was typing ecofeminist!). I think the topic of feminism deserves a thread. It's all over the place, can't be ignored. Even though this is a make dominated forum, we can expect good discussion on the subject.

To start with, I think we can be sure that no one here disagrees that there should be equal opportunity and rights for men as well as women. What about rest of the feminist discourse? Such topics as "male privilege", "objectification" etc.

 

[Spikey]

To start with, I think we can be sure that no one here disagrees that there should be equal opportunity and rights for men as well as women.

we can not

 

[ankitj]

we can not

#notsureifserious

 

[dogwalker]

he's serious, #wecannot

 

[ankitj]

elaborate please.

 

[duffer]

Partially inspired by Dan's posts that refer to ecofeminist anarchosocialism (fmd I got auto complete suggestion as I was typing ecofeminist!). I think the topic of feminism deserves a thread. It's all over the place, can't be ignored. Even though this is a make dominated forum, we can expect good discussion on the subject.

To start with, I think we can be sure that no one here disagrees that there should be equal opportunity and rights for men as well as women. What about rest of the feminist discourse? Such topics as "male privilege", "objectification" etc.

You go girl

 

[MW1304]

It's about ethics in games journalism.

 

[Teja.]

I think all of us are a bit sub-consciously sexist, at the very least. I noticed a short time ago that I have a tendency to relish and celebrate genius male artists/musicians/sportstars and enjoy them being douchey, arrogant and narcisstic as adding to their charm independent of how they look but for genius women at the top of their field, how they look and act (The 'Taylor Swift', cooler than cool prototype) sub-consciously plays a huge role in my perception of how much I like them and am much less likely to appreciate an overweight, real life bitchy female artist than male artist. Part of this is how it's incredibly rare for successful women to be publicly as narcissistic and ambitious as men but the reason for this could be that it'd be frighteningly less accepted and the 'angry bitch' steretype would be out in full force. Trying to amend it obviously but ti's just one of the small ways a lot of us are sub-consciously sexist.

I think we're far, far away from complete equality in any society and it's an important conversation. The thread will be more strictly moderated than usual and I hope and expect people not to exclusively take the piss of it.

 

[dogwalker]

elaborate please.

No.

 

[Swingpanzee]

elaborate please.

how bout you go to the kitchen and cook me a sammich honey.

 

[Teja.]

how bout you go to the kitchen and cook me a sammich honey.

Don't. Just don't.

 

[dogwalker]

The original OP referenced "male gaze". What is that?

 

[Spark]

The thread will be more strictly moderated than usual and I hope and expect people not to exclusively take the piss of it.

Now I know that Teja actually moderating may be an unfamiliar sight, but even so...

 

[Furball]

Now I know that Teja actually moderating may be an unfamiliar sight, but even so...

Ignoring moderator instructions. 8 points.

 

[dogwalker]

Moderating a thread about feminism more strictly and banning taking the piss definitely sends the right message.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Kill all men.

 

[Howe_zat]

It's about ethics in games journalism.

Oh god

 

[ankitj]

The original OP referenced "male gaze". What is that?

I kind of realized that that term is not universal. Has been used in Indian media. It's basically about objectifying / sexy-fying women in media or entertainment industry for pleasure of "male gaze".

EDIT: Elaborating further, this is somewhat tricky and I struggle to come to terms with this. On one hand, there is talk of complete sexual autonomy of women and their right to choose how they dress up and behave. On the other hand, there is condemnation of excessively sexualized portrayal like the one in the still below from an Indian movie:

 

[harsh.ag]

To start with, I think we can be sure that no one here disagrees that there should be equal opportunity and rights for men as well as women. What about rest of the feminist discourse? Such topics as "male privilege", "objectification" etc.

I disagree.

we can not

#notsureifserious

Of course he is serious. See above.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I think we're starting to see a backlash against feminist discourse, particularly with garbage like MRAs becoming more noticeable. This is good because it exposes how backward a lot of people are.