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** South Africa Tour of CW !!! **

age_master

Well-known member
Cloete said:

because hes a specialist batsman and captain, he needs to have some sort of impact before the bowlers are i with him. its like inzamam battting so low for pakistan its silly
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
age_master said:
because hes a specialist batsman and captain, he needs to have some sort of impact before the bowlers are i with him. its like inzamam battting so low for pakistan its silly
With all due respect to the captain, Goff`s batting is not in the same league as Ul-Haqs. Goff`s batting is not proven at Test Level, or anywhere near it compared to Inzy.
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
age_master said:
because hes a specialist batsman and captain, he needs to have some sort of impact before the bowlers are i with him. its like inzamam battting so low for pakistan its silly
Well, except that Inzamam doesn't carry a career Test average of 27..
 

Robertinho

Well-known member
Well, stat-wise, as captain, Inzamam has only scored 923 @ 41.15 compared to 6415 runs @ 50.11 when he was not captain.

With captaincy comes extreme responsiblity and a completely new dimension to the game, which takes some from ones batting. Or, at least, that's what it appears to imply.

Ricky Ponting: As captain (938 @ 52.11) not as captain (5821 @ 55.97).
Michael Vaughan: As captain (1474 @ 35.95) not as captain (2549 @ 50.98)


So there's definitely a negative impact on batting as captain (From these 3 as examples). Not as prominent in Ponting, But an 8.96 run difference for Inzy and an incredible 15.03 run different for Vaughan. I'm not sure about Blewy's test record not as captain though, but it could be hindering his batting (if ITC takes that into account).

Though, that said - is the Captain role in the CW XI simply a figurehead, or do they actually call the shots? :-O
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
Robertinho said:
Though, that said - is the Captain role in the CW XI simply a figurehead, or do they actually call the shots? :-O
When he's in the live sim, he calls the shots, yeah. Think he can send in bowling orders and stuff if he wants to and has the time, plus he is a member of the selectors' panel.
 

Robertinho

Well-known member
marc71178 said:
Well you can hardly talk about that sort of thing 8-)
Just saw this. Thanks skip, it means alot :detective


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Anyway. Hakon, what role does Richard play in the whole process? (as the head coach.) Does he have any say over selections, starting XI's and so on?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
age_master said:
Butler as a batsman

Verghese as an all rounder

Hoy is the option i would go for there, wonderful bowler but also bats well defensivly - scored over 500 runs in the dev league at a Sr under 25.

Camps is similar to Hoy

the last 2 dont really weaken the bowling that much and still strengthen the batting

the first 2 are more batting options
I'd say based on last season Camps is a batting option.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

Well-known member
The thing about Inzamam is that he's hardly bee shuffled through positions 2-7 in the batting order. We set out to let Goff play the series at 3 and I intend to try my utmost to allow him to finish it that way.
 

KennyD

Well-known member
Nnanden said:
Nah fair enough, I see Marc`s bowling a bit like Razzaq`s? Very glad Im not responsible for picking the team... hard job. Good luck :)
I see him as like a Steve Waugh....kind of stodgy, gritty kind of batsman, quite ugly. :p His mind games would be similar too, up with sledging and not willing to back down from a verbal contest obout point of view or whatnot. And his bowling would be like the young Steve Waugh too, just stump to stump, low trajectory tight stuff.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
age_master said:
i think he basically means that Pollock shouldn't be taking 6/27 vs the XI ;)
Robertinho said:
Precisely. The CW XI should be better than that, and I'd expect you, our head coach, to know that :D :p
My point is that Pollock has taken that against other teams before, and that taking it against us is not neccessarily the ultimate derogation.
 

Robertinho

Well-known member
Haha, how convenient is that? *rolls out the carpet for an S. Bhatia...*

Nah, bad luck there Dave, you're one of the best bowlers in the side...
 
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