Slifer
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I disagree because Hayden could also be considered in the top 10 greatest openers but he's no better than Steve Waugh who's arguably outside the top 10 middle order batsmen of all time.
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Top Five Cricketers from each country
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Pap Finn Keighl
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Worrell against
Australia 32.8
England 55
India 60.8
NZ. 116.5
Worrell in
Australia 35.6
England 47
NZ. 116.5
WI. 55.4
vcs
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You missed Donald too. I'd take Smith and Donald over AB (in Tests) and Kirsten.
Slifer
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Ok I suppose with Worrell I stand corrected. Still applies to the other two
khanzada786
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Afghanistan Australia Bangladesh England India Ireland
1. Rashid Khan
2. Mohammad Nabi
3. Mohammad Shahzad
4. Hamid Hassan
5. Rahmat Shah 1. Don Bradman
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Shane Warne
4. Dennis Lillee
5. Victor Trumper 1. Shakib al Hasan
2. Tamim Iqbal
3. Mushfiqr Rahim
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mohammad Rafique 1. WG Grace
2. Jack Hobbs
3. Walter Hammond
4. Ian Botham
5. Jack Leach 1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Kapil Dev
4. MS Dhoni
5. Anil Kumble 1. Ed Joyce
2. Niall O'Brien
3. Will Porterfield
4. Kevin O'Brien
5. George Dockrell
New Zealand Pakistan South Africa Sri Lanka West Indies Zimbabwe
1. Richard Hadlee
2. Kane Williamson
3. Martin Crowe
4. Daniel Vettori
5. John R Reid 1. Wasim Akram
2. Imran Khan
3. Javed Miandad
4. Waqar Younis
5. Abdul Qadir 1. Jacques Kallis
2. Mike Procter
3. Barry Richards
4. Shaun Pollock
5. Aubrey Faulkner 1. Muttiah Muralitharan
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Mahela Jayawardene
4. Chaminda Vaas
5. Aravinda de Silva 1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Viv Richards
3. Brian Lara
4. George Headley
5. Frank Worrell 1. Andrew Flower
2. Heath Streak
3. Dave Houghton
4. Brendon Taylor
5. Graeme Cremer
1. Rashid Khan
2. Mohammad Nabi
3. Mohammad Shahzad
4. Hamid Hassan
5. Rahmat Shah 1. Don Bradman
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Shane Warne
4. Dennis Lillee
5. Victor Trumper 1. Shakib al Hasan
2. Tamim Iqbal
3. Mushfiqr Rahim
4. Habibul Bashar
5. Mohammad Rafique 1. WG Grace
2. Jack Hobbs
3. Walter Hammond
4. Ian Botham
5. Jack Leach 1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Kapil Dev
4. MS Dhoni
5. Anil Kumble 1. Ed Joyce
2. Niall O'Brien
3. Will Porterfield
4. Kevin O'Brien
5. George Dockrell
New Zealand Pakistan South Africa Sri Lanka West Indies Zimbabwe
1. Richard Hadlee
2. Kane Williamson
3. Martin Crowe
4. Daniel Vettori
5. John R Reid 1. Wasim Akram
2. Imran Khan
3. Javed Miandad
4. Waqar Younis
5. Abdul Qadir 1. Jacques Kallis
2. Mike Procter
3. Barry Richards
4. Shaun Pollock
5. Aubrey Faulkner 1. Muttiah Muralitharan
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Mahela Jayawardene
4. Chaminda Vaas
5. Aravinda de Silva 1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Viv Richards
3. Brian Lara
4. George Headley
5. Frank Worrell 1. Andrew Flower
2. Heath Streak
3. Dave Houghton
4. Brendon Taylor
5. Graeme Cremer
smalishah84
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Why do you strongly assert Ponting was better than GChappell?
mr_mister
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Yeah but Waugh > Lloyd I think
trundler
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Because peak Ponting was something else and be played twice as many matches، didn't pick and choose his tours and dominates at 3 like no one else.
smalishah84
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he was harbhajan's bunny at his peak
Lillee took 6 wickets in 5 Test matches outside Australia/England/New Zealand. Lillee does not make my Top 10 Fast bowlers of all time
If you Exclude the 2001 series, Ponting has a very good record against Harbhajan.he was harbhajan's bunny at his peak
h_hurricane
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You are factually correct, but then he is the most complete fast bowler of all time. Every time he played outside these countries, he was either injured, or had to face issues like food,dust etc.
Unluckiest cricketer ever.
h_hurricane
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Ponting only averaged 26 in India over 25 innings. His issues were pretty much not limited to Harbhajan alone though Bhaji was his biggest tormentor.
He never had a very good record against Harbhajan in india. He only progressed from atrocious to poor to average to decent in the 2000s decade while playing in this country.
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aussie tragic
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So you're judging Lillee on:
One test vs WI in 1973 where he only bowled 20 overs before having his massive back injury that put him out for 2 years
One test vs SL where he took 3 wkts after Aus made 4-514 (dec). Spin took 14 wkts + 2 run outs, while Hogg got the other.
Three Tests vs Pak where he only bowled 4 innings due to spinning roads and took 3 wkts in the series (Sarfraz Nawaz only took 2 wkts in 5 innings). Example is 2nd test Aus scored 617 in 1st innings, whereby Pak then scored 2-382 - game over.
h_hurricane
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Is this about his overall stats against Harbhajan or against him in India ? Ponting only scored 664 runs in India and there is no way he has scored those many against Bhajji in India let alone since 2002.
Punter has played him excellently in Australia, that is something beyond debate.