Do you think white supremacists and Nazis are evil?

[Ikki]

It's ironic to me that the same people who want to physically assault those people whose speech they don't like because they think it will eventuate to Nazism will at the same time make it out as if it is ridiculous to want the government to get smaller because a tyrannical government is not going to happen if we start becoming more socialist. they just play whatever fiddle they can pick up regardless if it is in tune or not.

 

[Burgey]

You’re making idiotic yet deliberate distinctions in categorising these people. You think you’re doing it subtly but you aren’t. It’s not about people whose speech might or will eventuate to nazism, it’s about Nazis themselves.

Don’t try to subtly moderate your position in an attempt to avoid the fact you want to stick up for them. Just own the fact you’re a fellow traveler.

 

[Ikki]

You’re making idiotic yet deliberate distinctions in categorising these people. You think you’re doing it subtly but you aren’t. It’s not about people whose speech might or will eventuate to nazism, it’s about Nazis themselves.

Don’t try to subtly moderate your position in an attempt to avoid the fact you want to stick up for them. Just own the fact you’re a fellow traveler.

You prove my point all the time, it's actually comical at this point. You're actually a bigot. I want to stick up for Nazis, why? Because I am a Nazi? And you're surprised when I don't want people like you getting to control other peoples' speech.

It's like you don't want to put 2 and 2 together lest you might face the realisation that the point is about protecting free speech. I'm sure in another age you'd be calling me a n-word lover or a homosexual deviant. Disgraceful stuff, but finally we get you engaged enough in explaining yourself to out who you really are.

You couldn't have provided a better illustration to:

How do you forget the reasons Nazis are evil?

 

[Burgey]

You’re right. I apologise for being bigoted.



Against Nazis.

 

[Ikki]

Don't forget their fellow travellers.

 

[Ausage]

You’re right. I apologise for being bigoted.



Against Nazis.

The problem with this entire thread is term creep.

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[Burgey]

Whilst it’s accurate, you shouldn’t call Ikki a creep.

 

[Burgey]

Awaiting #freedom warrior report to the mods like last time.

 

[zorax]

Whilst it’s accurate, you shouldn’t call Ikki a creep.

your face is that of a creep

 

[Burgey]

your face is that of a creep

Just like your posts tbh.

 

[trundler]

https://medium.com/the-anti-nihilis...hen-they-killed-all-those-people-b45fcdbac80b
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

Nazis aren't evil. They're just ****s.

 

[Spark]

Simon Copland @SimonCopland
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Inside at the Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux event. Will keep all thoughts on this thread.
First thing I noticed was how many people of colour were working on tickets and security for the event. All smiling and doing an amazing job. Rather awkward really.
The venue is packed though. Hundreds of people here. #laurensouthern
And it has started. Some host: "the people who forgot their tickets were the protesters".
Okay Stefan Molyneux walked in to Queen's We Will Rock You. That is awkward....
Molyneux starting by attacking the Australian mainstream media.
The theatre is packed, and everyone is laughing and cheering a lot. It is unnerving me a little.
Molyneux: "we're going to talk about Aborigines." Here we go...
Molyneux says that he looked into 'Aborigines' and saw the myth of the 'nobel savage', but when he looked into aboriginal ethics things were very "different"
Says that aboriginal religion is the most conservative in the world. Can see where this is going in terms of a justification of colonisation.
Molyneux says that Aboriginal culture refuses to learn and grow. Is "absolutely certain and absolutely wrong." Compared to western cultures that are uncertain but willing to try.
Western culture being based on reason and and a willingness to learn results in others wanting to invade and pillage, apparently.
Molyneux tells a story of being on a train in Melbourne and suddenly the train was full of Chinese people. "What are you doing?" He says, to the cheers of many.
Sorry folks, am tweeting some epic racist stuff here.
Now Molyneux is mocking Aboriginal origin myths, and everyone is laughing along.
Because all the western Christian myths make total sense....
Not of course that there is any excuse for mocking those myths.
Molyneux is talking about punishments in aboriginal culture -- going through details of rape and infanticide.
"They say that your ancestors tried to steal the land. I say they were trying to stop infanticide and mass rape...I will not honour this culture."
Apparently western culture has never included rape, murder or infanticide.
"The aborigines had Australia for 40,000 years. You have had it for a tiny fraction of that time. And look at what You have done. And you are supposed to feel guilty about this?"
This is really rather awful stuff.
Molyneux seems now to be claiming that Aboriginal people killed off intelligent people and that's why their culture "never moved on". Different to Western culture apparently.
Molyneux talking about how Aboriginal people used to punish young girls by putting their fingers in ants nests and someone yells out "stop it I'm getting aroused".
Holy ****.
Molyneux talks about how in Aboriginal communities people killed off those who didn't belong or broke the rules and somehow claims that doesn't happen in the West...
Molyneux says that in aboriginal religion it was forbidden to alter nature, which is why they didn't have agriculture. Which is absolutely wrong (They did have agriculture).
"In the west we're all about altering nature, because nature sucks."
Molyneux says that the left and Noel savages are just the same. And that is why the left is so dangerous. Because the left kills of our free thinkers...
"The aborigine culture is very violent", says Molyneux. Again, apparently the west has never had any violence.
Molyneux says that Australia is the only place that doesn't have a treaty with indigenous people because you couldn't because aboriginal people were at the lowest rung of civilisation.
Molyneux now starting to discredit the history of the massacres of Aboriginal people. I was not expecting Australian history wars tonight.
Comparing the Australian example to the Islamic takeover of India, saying that was much worse (as an apparent excuse of colonisation here).
"I want you you remember that great evils were halted with the advent of whites to Australia as great evils were halted with the advent of whites to South Africa"

Definitely 100% unfair to call these people white supremacists though. Absolutely the sort of people I want controlling policy in the West.

 

[Spark]

Honestly it's pretty hard to swallow a bunch of blow-ins flying into the country and yelling all about how segments of the population are essentially subhuman.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Unless European colonialism ( and by that I mean real colonialism, not a watered down 'the natives accomodated the settlers by moving away') becomes mainstream history that is taught in schools, colleges, universities everywhere and not just elite private Universities, this sort of thing is only going to find more and more takers.

 

[Spark]

Like it's flat-out detached from reality. The historical evidence for widescale massacres has gotten more solid over the last twenty years or so, not that it matters a damn to Molyneux and his ilk who will pick and choose data however they like to present a vision of the world in which all historical violence against non-white people was somehow justifiable, and therefore future violence will be justified too.

"They say that your ancestors tried to steal the land. I say they were trying to stop infanticide and mass rape...I will not honour this culture."

Like this... what is this? It's so utterly shameless that there's no reason it couldn't be employed again if these people ever get a smidgen of power.

 

[NZTailender]

Honestly it's pretty hard to swallow a bunch of blow-ins flying into the country and yelling all about how segments of the population are essentially subhuman.

Coming here next. They'll play well to the people who think Maori are the most privileged people in the country.

 

[NZTailender]

Like it's flat-out detached from reality. The historical evidence for widescale massacres has gotten more solid over the last twenty years or so, not that it matters a damn to Molyneux and his ilk who will pick and choose data however they like to present a vision of the world in which all historical violence against non-white people was somehow justifiable, and therefore future violence will be justified too.



Like this... what is this? It's so utterly shameless that there's no reason it couldn't be employed again if these people ever get a smidgen of power.

Yeah but the real fascists are the people wanting these people silenced.

 

[hendrix]

I don't want Lauren Southern silenced.

She's ****ing stupid. It's blatantly obvious. Like she is one of the least intelligent people I've ever heard talk, and that should be obvious to anyone. Let her talk. She makes the argument for me.

 

[GIMH]

I don't want Lauren Southern silenced.

She's ****ing stupid. It's blatantly obvious. Like she is one of the least intelligent people I've ever heard talk, and that should be obvious to anyone. Let her talk. She makes the argument for me.

No mate it needs to be legislated duh

 

[Spark]

Apparently she wasn't anywhere near as odious as Molyneux. obviously I still find her opinions dire, but she wasn't so gleefully malicious as him.