Maybe he'd feel worse with the latter?
Asif's strike rate has been average so far, but that's simply because he has become so respected so quickly by opposition batsmen. His economy rate of 4.11 is absolutely brilliant, especially given some of the scores that have been racked up against Pakistan in that time. His average over a tick under 32 is indicative of the lack of the support he has received and hence the lack of any need to attack him at all. Prosper Utseya syndrome, if you will. Just watching him bowl in a lot of the ODIs he has played, he has been great really - and even given he hasn't take a lot of wickets, he has been very consistent and his ability to keep the runs down has been superb.
Totally Agree. He needs to wake up to it. He maybe one of the best Captains in the game, But his recent performances are what is letting the side down. England need a steady partnership at the top of the innings. So far he has managed to get a few runs and then get out. He is letting the team down desperatly, he needs to get better or get out!
Well if you look at performances he's not a terribly good ODI captain either. Fair enough if his captaincy is working and we are winning despite the fact he's batting is ****e but his captaincy is doing nothing for us.
His been pretty good for mine considering he has either been a one man band or playing on absolutely roads. I'm sure if he had some form of support his average would indeed come down for all sides do when they play Pakistan is usually see out Asif and then molest the likes of Rana, Sami, Razzaq et cetera.
Well, we don't usually tend to score quite that fast in Tests but the answer is simple - the sort of batting which will score you 3.5-an-over in Tests will probably get you 4-an-over at best in ODIs. The two games require a different style of batting. If you play in a ODI as you do in a Test you'll never, ever get very far, and that's why so many fine Test batsmen (Stephen Waugh, Vaughan, Strauss, Younis Khan, Jayawardene, to name a few examples) can't hack ODIs especially well (Waugh, of course, did better than most)
I suppose I expected Asif to run through sides, much like he has been doing in Test matches. No idea what I was thinking saying Younis was a quality ODI player, I just lumped him in with Yousuf instead of actually thinking about it. Basically I got p0wned here.
Yeah, but he should realise that he needs to retire from ODI's for the sake of his team. Didn't Hussain go out a similar way?
In ODIs? No wonder England is doing so badly
I disagree really. It's not his job to decide if he's the right man for the position. If he wants to play, then by all means he should continue to make himself available.
Nothing "happened", he's just never been good at the shorter game. There's no special reason - it's just the way it is, some batsmen can't hack one form of the game. Vaughan can't. Just don't judge him as a Test batsman because of it.In ODIs? No wonder England is doing so badly
I can't believe Vaughan has never scored a ODI century, averages under 30, has a strike rate under 70 and is still in the side. I mean those stats are dire, for an opener, even more so. I also don't really get why he is so bad in this form of the game. I mean, admittedly my view is clouded b/c i've only ever seen him bat properly in Aus in 2003 when he played so well, but he really was an impressive batsman back then. What happened? Quite sad really...if you're english
Not terribly similar - Hussain (who was always a superior ODI batsman to Vaughan in any case, even while not remotely close to being top-drawer) retired because he knew he'd not be around for the next Cup, as he was 35 at the time. It was the practical and sensible decision - and Knight, Caddick and Stewart, all top-notch players, followed suit soon after.
Yes but that doesn't tell me anything. I want to know why he can't 'hack' it. If he's a class batsman in tests he should be able to translate that at least reasonably well into ODIs. But maybe that's the problem. Is he that classy in tests of recent times? An average of 35 in his last 25 matches is hardly stunning.
Doesn't work like that.
It's hardly abysmal, either. Nor is it remotely relevant - he was crap at ODIs even when his Test average was skyrocketing. He's never been anything but useless at the shorter game, and no-one can dispute that at a time he was top-notch in Tests.
What about when he was dominating with the bat in test cricket and failing in one day cricket then? Or his domestic performances, where he was one of the leading first class batsmen in the country for a number of seasons but was lucky to keep his place in his county's one day team?
