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4th Test at Old Trafford, Manchester

flibbertyjibber

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Just seen result, well played Australia. Deserved series win.
Can we please sack Root before next week and pick some actual batsmen not one day sloggers?
 

artvandalay

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Well england did show a lot of fight today. Can't complain about that. I didn't expect roy would be batting after the first hour today.
 

Cabinet96

Global Moderator
Only the second time in my cricket watching life where the Ashes haven't been won by the home side. Very impressed by the two sides I saw stop the home dominance. No secret England aren't a great test team at the moment, but it still takes a special effort to beat them (or draw) in their own backyard. Australia have a fantastic bowling attack and one of the best batsmen ever, which will always take you very far.
 

Burgey

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Joe Root isn't a woeful player. Just not in the best of form at the moment and he has received some cracking deliveries from some superb pace bowlers.
In other words, he’s David Warner. Of course Root can play but he’s been pretty average for a while now hasn’t he? Averages 35 or something the last year apparently. Let’s be honest, this series has been the Smith and Stokes show from a batting POV with the odd cameo from what’s been a very average support cast.
 

OverratedSanity

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In other words, he’s David Warner. Of course Root can play but he’s been pretty average for a while now hasn’t he? Averages 35 or something the last year apparently. Let’s be honest, this series has been the Smith and Stokes show from a batting POV with the odd cameo from what’s been a very average support cast.
Harsh on Labuschagne
 

Anil

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well done australia, clearly the better team and no miracle escapes for england this time!
 

Burgey

Well-known member
Just seen result, well played Australia. Deserved series win.
Can we please sack Root before next week and pick some actual batsmen not one day sloggers?
I’ve been a huge critic of Buttler but he had a good game here and was excellent today. Real test match batting. Certainly Roy needs to go you’d think
 

ajdude

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marnus’ interview on channel 9 was amazing then haha

on another note, the first test series (or any cricket for that matter) that i paid any attention to was the 2005 ashes so this is unreal
 

Cabinet96

Global Moderator
A good amount of heart shown from England today as well tbf. If you'd said Root and Stokes both failed you'd never have imagined them surviving over 90 overs.

But winning the World Cup and losing the Ashes has always felt like what England deserved from the balance of their performances and focus in the last few years.
 

trundler

Well-known member
Labus probably the discovery of the series. Burns impressed too.

Hope Buttler plays more domestic cricket to improve his FC game. Definitely something there compared to others.

Some test careers should end for sure though.
 

quincywagstaff

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Lots of things to think about for England as a Test side. Their batting lineup is a mess; just don't think having Bairstow & Buttler in the same batting lineup is viable anymore, regardless of who takes the gloves.
 

Spark

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Lots of things to think about for England as a Test side. Their batting lineup is a mess; just don't think having Bairstow & Buttler in the same batting lineup is viable anymore, regardless of who takes the gloves.
Buttler surely deserves a crack at an actual specialist batting position based on today's effort.
 

quincywagstaff

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Hazlewood was massively pivotal for Australia. He'd stagnated in 2018 and had become a rather bland bowler but he's been outstanding this series. Perhaps missing out on the WC was the kick up the backside he needed.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Hazlewood was massively pivotal for Australia. He'd stagnated in 2018 and had become a rather bland bowler but he's been outstanding this series. Perhaps missing out on the WC was the kick up the backside he needed.
I wonder what went wrong last year, everything just looks so simple yet so relentlessly high quality when he's in this sort of form.
 

Burgey

Well-known member
Buttler made a conundrum for the selectors today, didn’t he? Head was right on the chopping block and I properly thought he was a hack, but that was a genuinely gutsy test match performance today, the sort of thing you want to see from anyone you give a cap to. Weird that a 40 odd on a losing side might be a turning point for a player, but I reckon he showed a ****ing lot of moxie today. Respect.
 

Burgey

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I wonder what went wrong last year, everything just looks so simple yet so relentlessly high quality when he's in this sort of form.
Slightly less round arm than he was when he was mediocre. He looks slightly more upright at release now. Bowling the house down.
 
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