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ICC rule changes due to covid

Spark

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Someone tell me why #4 (and maybe to a lesser extent #3) shouldn't become permanent so I can tell them how wrong they are and to stop being wrong.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think all bar #1 (which I despise, but I'll cop to get them back out there) should be permanent. Spitting on the ball in general seems a bit anachronistic to me. I'm all for the artificial substance they've been working on replace it though -- hopefully it'll make the ball reverse swing more rather than less.
 

duffer

Well-known member
I think all bar #1 (which I despise, but I'll cop to get them back out there) should be permanent. Spitting on the ball in general seems a bit anachronistic to me. I'm all for the artificial substance they've been working on replace it though -- hopefully it'll make the ball reverse swing more rather than less.
Didn't know about the new artificial substance thing. All rule changes fine by me then
 

Starfighter

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I think all bar #1 (which I despise, but I'll cop to get them back out there) should be permanent. Spitting on the ball in general seems a bit anachronistic to me. I'm all for the artificial substance they've been working on replace it though -- hopefully it'll make the ball reverse swing more rather than less.
Didn't know about the new artificial substance thing. All rule changes fine by me then
Pretty sure they've said they're not using it. Sweat only.

Only no. 4 should be permanent. No. 5 can die in a fire.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Didn't know about the new artificial substance thing. All rule changes fine by me then
It hasn't been approved yet by the new rules, and I have no idea what sort of stage it's at in development. I'm optimistically hoping it's awesome though.
 

Flem274*

123/5
im not sure no spit will affect reverse much. big reverse seems to be caused by ball tampering, really abrasive conditions or hilarious accidents where the ball gets bunged in some reverse creating way.

i see these rules reviving the mccullum era nz strategy of complain about the ball as soon as it stops swinging and manipulate the umpires into giving you one that hoops (don't tell me it was that generation of balls constantly going out of shape, the other nations weren't having the same number of ball issues nz claimed to have).
 

honestbharani

Well-known member
Why is #5 even a thing now? They expect more sponsorship money given cricket is one of the few sports to go ahead or something?
 

Flem274*

123/5
I think all bar #1 (which I despise, but I'll cop to get them back out there) should be permanent. Spitting on the ball in general seems a bit anachronistic to me. I'm all for the artificial substance they've been working on replace it though -- hopefully it'll make the ball reverse swing more rather than less.
tbf #1 could shut the entire test down the next day. if one player has it, some of the others are about to have it. may as well not have the rule because the inevitable will occur when the results return.
 

harsh.ag

Well-known member
Why is #5 even a thing now? They expect more sponsorship money given cricket is one of the few sports to go ahead or something?
Think it might be to contribute for the loss of revenue from tickets plus the increased safety costs of putting on the show
 

GoodAreasShane

Well-known member
1 really doesn't sit well with me at all, what is considered "displaying symptoms" frankly seems completely arbitrary, can't see it being anything other than a mess that rule
 

Howe_zat

Well-known member
1 really doesn't sit well with me at all, what is considered "displaying symptoms" frankly seems completely arbitrary, can't see it being anything other than a mess that rule
Largely agree, it relies on an awful lot of good faith both for the symptoms and the replacement being 'like for like'. Want rid of that one asap.
 

Bijed

Well-known member
With #1 is it "you're allowed to swap if you want" or is it that anyone displaying symptoms is automatically removed from the game and the team is 'allowed' a replacement in the interests of maintaining the contest?
 

honestbharani

Well-known member
I think it is because most countries have a rule that if you are even tested for covid, you have to be in quarantine at least till the results come out.
 

SteveNZ

Well-known member
With #1 is it "you're allowed to swap if you want" or is it that anyone displaying symptoms is automatically removed from the game and the team is 'allowed' a replacement in the interests of maintaining the contest?
I don't expect anyone to flaunt it because the fallout would be incredible, but might be tempting to sub out a poorly-performing player or one not suited to the game condition by telling them to develop a sneeze and a cough.
 

TheJediBrah

Well-known member
im not sure no spit will affect reverse much. big reverse seems to be caused by ball tampering, really abrasive conditions or hilarious accidents where the ball gets bunged in some reverse creating way.

i see these rules reviving the mccullum era nz strategy of complain about the ball as soon as it stops swinging and manipulate the umpires into giving you one that hoops (don't tell me it was that generation of balls constantly going out of shape, the other nations weren't having the same number of ball issues nz claimed to have).
Don't necessarily agree with this. recent history shows us that something to help shine the ball, eg. sugar/lollies helps reverse more than artificially roughing it up, eg. sandpaper

Why is the number of reviews increasing a thing?
My first thought too. Only thing I can come up with is to counteract whinging about the non-neutral umpires
 

Daemon

Well-known member
Largely agree, it relies on an awful lot of good faith both for the symptoms and the replacement being 'like for like'. Want rid of that one asap.
Replacements being like for like are down to the judgement of the match referee, the process will be identical to concussion subs.

The Smith to Labu substitution is probably going to remain the most like to like replacement ever possible.
 
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