Ausage
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There's always a chance, however slim, that CW/FB et all is where the real ruse is occurring.
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In A Libertarian state how would the poor survive?
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Prince EWS
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Haha, that sledger and I really are hot libertarian girls?
Ausage
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Shri, this is called playing hard to get.Haha, that sledger and I really are hot libertarian girls?
Ausage
Well-known member
The way to a man's vote is through his:
a) Stomach
b) *** Organs
c) Values
d) All of the above
e) ???
Burgey
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In a libertarian state you'll be able to harvest the organs of others, especially the poor, and sell them to the highest bidder. That's got to be a vote winner.
I know you think it sounds silly, but believe me, once you privatise anything to do with health, you're going down the slippery slope
I know you think it sounds silly, but believe me, once you privatise anything to do with health, you're going down the slippery slope
Burgey
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You've been on too much of that as it is.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Just one more hit and I'll quit I promise
vogue
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Ikki
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Yeah...charities never help. Like, people don't care at all about their neighbours or their community...
What's funnier is that you probably believe this.
Ikki
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You're right, people are evil and don't do anything for others...let's elect them and allow them to tax us into oblivion.
christ, if these are your objections then I really have to wonder about you Burgey. I actually gave you more credit.
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Burgey
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For a bloke whose head is as inflated as yours, a lot sure goes over it. You’re the one espousing charity as a replacement vehicle for the welfare state. It’s really incumbent on you to demonstrate it’ll work. You know, just like it did for the poor before the welfare state came into existence....
Burgey
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That’s ok, I don’t give you any credit, and never really have.You're right, people are evil and don't do anything for others...let's elect them and allow them to tax us into oblivion.
Anil
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I know they are some who would consider themselves libertarians here which is fine as there is elements I and am sure many others can admire.
However one issue I have always been perplexed by and an accusation aimed at the movement is, Libertarians offers nothing for the poor and most vulnerable in the world. This thread was inspired by a chap who is aiming to represent the LP party in 2020 who is adamant the welfare state needs to die as obviously those that depend on it will all instantly go get well paid jobs.
Feedback appreciated.
- there won't be any poor people in a libertarian system since the big bad govt won't be stealing from its citizens. people will be either rich, comfortably well-off or dead (the dead ones would be the unproductive people who are a burden on society, they are takers/moochers so they don't matter anyway).
- corporations will trickle down their profits to their employees. everyone will get exactly the salary, bonus and recognition that they deserve irrespective of gender, race, age, sexual orientation.
- private healthcare will engender competition and drive down the cost of services and medicine and will make it affordable for everyone to get high quality goods and services. in fact the price of all essential goods and services will become dirt-cheap because of the laissez faire free market competition. even in sectors where monopolies happen (now that anti-trust laws are out of the picture), these benevolent behemoth corporations will honorably refuse to take advantage of a captive market.
- the c-level people are for the most part honest, hard-working people anyway and the few unscrupulous, unworthy ones will be weeded out by highly ethical corporate policies. nepotism will be unheard of.
- shady companies and unethical business practices will be punished by the all-powerful consumer just refusing to buy their goods and services and by their more ethical competitors.
- there will be charities run by rich individuals and corporations (freed up from having to practice charity to reduce their taxable income, they will now be motivated by genuine philanthropy) for the disabled and generally unproductive people who are not supported by their family.
- once the deadly malaise of political correctness and social justice posturing are weeded out from society, an incorruptible volunteer army and police force will make sure laws are enforced and borders are protected. crime will be scarce but an equally incorruptible and completely unbiased judiciary and the justice system will make sure criminals are punished and victims get justice. there won't be any more racial tension, not even the concept of a minority group, everyone will be treated equally.
- every country will be self-sufficient and its citizens rich and happy so there won't be really any need to migrate to another country. when it happens, it will be 100% legal migration.
- all religious groups will be treated equally and without prejudice. atheists, socialists, transsexuals and other enemies of a free society will be eradicated.
- ayn rand, jordan peterson, ben shapiro will be required reading for children starting from elementary school.
- politicians will become more or less powerless and so money in elections and business lobbies will become obsolete. as a result all politicians will be honest and devoted to public service, corruption will be a thing of the past.
- there will be no wars or terrorism of course because why would happy people want to fight?!
- unfettered by the pernicious environment protection policies and in the absence of rubbish conspiracy theories like climate change, all kinds of technology will flourish. pollution will be dealt with somehow by better technology. if plant and animal life die off, it's because it is necessary for human survival. in the highly unlikely event of coastal cities going underwater (highly unlikely because of course climate change is pure hogwash), advanced technology will help build underwater cities or cities in outer space.
- flying pigs and unicorns will be common-place in all libertarian countries and will become the national bird/animal in those countries.
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zorax
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Correct me if I'm wrong...
But it seems Libertarians believe all humans are inherently good and capable of living well together peacefully if left to their own devices, and governments by their nature subvert this, and that we don't need an authority who controls us all with the threat of violence in order to ensure we all live well together.
While all non libertarians feel people (some if not all) are inherently, at their core, evil and we need governments to ensure these evil people don't **** over the rest of us, and they're willing to sacrifice some of our freedoms and rights for that.
But it seems Libertarians believe all humans are inherently good and capable of living well together peacefully if left to their own devices, and governments by their nature subvert this, and that we don't need an authority who controls us all with the threat of violence in order to ensure we all live well together.
While all non libertarians feel people (some if not all) are inherently, at their core, evil and we need governments to ensure these evil people don't **** over the rest of us, and they're willing to sacrifice some of our freedoms and rights for that.
