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Political Correctness Gone Mad

Burgey

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You're quite right about economics, socialism has a bit of a cloud hanging over it that a lot of people feel comfortable turning their nose up at, point taken

Yes there is some vocal support for centre and far right views here in Aus, you see a lot of it on facebook comments and such, but you'd rarely see a company risk adopting such a stance (I can't think of an example anyway) due to the backlash from the media and political class that seems to hold more water than the other way round.
Channels Seven, Nine and Sky make a point of being vehicles for those views. So doe.s News Ltd Hanson gets a regular spot on breakfast TV, the same programs which have panels of white blokes commenting on stuff like climbing Uluru, while their indigenous to-camera talent (Brooke Boney) has her say a couple of hours later on a mid-morning show when everyone has gone to work.
 

Burgey

Well-known member
Mind you having said that, my family is largely ALP HQ, only my dad tends to swing (and be secretive of his vote) while mum, older brother and even now younger sister are pretty much card carrying members, I'm a closeted conservative libertarian type thing who voted liberal (largely owing to lack of lower house reps running in Corio), family don't really know what I stand for I'd say, perhaps I assume I tow the alp line as I did in my teens.

So enough preamble, on election night mum went a little ballistic talking about 'selfish old men' and who had sold out the economy for personal gain (apparently they'd invited over a friend who perfectly fitted this description and mum went off at his gloating) and her criticisms would definitely not be the first of their type I would hear in the wake of the election. The media class and their followers certainly were strong of the opinion that liberal voters had sold out the country due to a combination of selfishness and ignorance, I was certainly selective of who I told about my vote following that.

Obviously a lot of personal experience here but just my 2 cents
What prompted you to vote Liberal? Genuine question.
 

Maximas

Well-known member
Channels Seven, Nine and Sky make a point of being vehicles for those views. So doe.s News Ltd Hanson gets a regular spot on breakfast TV, the same programs which have panels of white blokes commenting on stuff like climbing Uluru, while their indigenous to-camera talent (Brooke Boney) has her say a couple of hours later on a mid-morning show when everyone has gone to work.
Yeah I just don't watch TV, listen to radio or read the papers so get a lot of info and debate from online, not to say **** like the project exists as well, but can't really comment on how balanced overall the media is
 

Maximas

Well-known member
What prompted you to vote Liberal? Genuine question.
In the lower house I had a choice between labor, liberal, clive or the greens, I live in a safe ALP seat, it was a combination of trying to cut Marles' margin to attract pork barrelling (lol) and me deciding that I was quite repulsed by the other three options, I have several issues with Labor policy and stances across the board, I wasn't really happy to vote liberal but again, lesser of evils for mine
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Don't be so apologetic. Be honest. The reason you won't vote Labour is because it's the representation of all that is evil and stupid.
 

Maximas

Well-known member
Don't be so apologetic. Be honest. The reason you won't vote Labour is because it's the representation of all that is evil and stupid.
I'm not adverse to their general stance on holding employers and business to account, whereas the current government had to be dragged kicking and screaming to uncover what the banks have been doing.

I've also been impressed with the state Labor government here in Victoria, who have been very strong on infrastructure, and I was keen to see Shorten fulfil his promise to direct some federal funds into the projects (which are well thought out and cater to long term needs) that are going up in Melbourne and around.

The Liberals on that issue have been weak, they used straight up bullshit pork barrelling to try and win the marginal seat next door to me with a completely uncosted promise to deliver fast rail to Melbourne from Geelong for example. Both Liberal and Labor have rather concerning attitudes towards freedom as well, both announced some pretty authoritarian policy during the election, not big stuff but concerning for me.

But at the end of the day, Labor came across as a party that was out for your blood if you were doing well, and had a long list of benefactors ready to receive your hard earned cash, whereas the libs had generally attempted to come across as more hands off in that department, although as I said earlier that extended to big business as well, which was a key criticism throughout the previous term and has been for the party's history
 

Burgey

Well-known member
I'm not adverse to their general stance on holding employers and business to account, whereas the current government had to be dragged kicking and screaming to uncover what the banks have been doing.

I've also been impressed with the state Labor government here in Victoria, who have been very strong on infrastructure, and I was keen to see Shorten fulfil his promise to direct some federal funds into the projects (which are well thought out and cater to long term needs) that are going up in Melbourne and around.

The Liberals on that issue have been weak, they used straight up bullshit pork barrelling to try and win the marginal seat next door to me with a completely uncosted promise to deliver fast rail to Melbourne from Geelong for example. Both Liberal and Labor have rather concerning attitudes towards freedom as well, both announced some pretty authoritarian policy during the election, not big stuff but concerning for me.

But at the end of the day, Labor came across as a party that was out for your blood if you were doing well, and had a long list of benefactors ready to receive your hard earned cash, whereas the libs had generally attempted to come across as more hands off in that department, although as I said earlier that extended to big business as well, which was a key criticism throughout the previous term and has been for the party's history
To quote Spark from t'other day

"I mean. franking credits."

Cheers for the answers. Appreciate it.
 

Niall

Well-known member
This "wax my testicles" story is wild. Gervais can be a tedious bore at times, but he's been spot on regarding this.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
There’s no groundswell of support for her from the trans rights movement tbh and framing it as if there is by certain quarters in the RW is dire and predictable.

It’s a bit like trying to say “all *** is rape’” feminists are a feminist problem as opposed to a crazy person problem.

A lot more trans people have in fact come out criticizing her than any minuscule support she has, even though they should be under no obligation to.
 

Niall

Well-known member
Contrapoints being run off twitter is one of the most insane things I've seen
Just read up on this , ****ing hell that is grim.Contrapoints youtube videos are great.

I don't want to sound all "get of my lawn" but the people that came for her seem pretty ****ing crazy and the type that you can never be woke enough for.
 
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