The European Politics Thread

[GIMH]

France bring back slavery, hooray.

ind33d

 

[GIMH]

France Is Reinstating National Service For all 16-Year-Olds | Time

Not quite national service as we tend to think of it.....

What I can never understand is why all the good charity workers and/or government employees (fire/police whoever) are made to put up with stroppy teenagers that don't want to be there and end up just causing double the work for said volunteers/employees. The work is difficult enough as it is.

 

[Burgey]

They can put everyone of their young blokes through special forces training afaic, it still won't overcome the flaw in their national character which causes them to drop what they're carrying and put their hands up at the first whiff of strife.

 

[GIMH]

They can put everyone of their young blokes through special forces training afaic, it still won't overcome the flaw in their national character which causes them to drop what they're carrying and put their hands up at the first whiff of strife.

Finally you produce some excellence in this subbie

 

[GIMH]

Anyone else absolutely shocked to see the EU put ridiculously authoritarian laws through today?

No me neither

 

[Groundking]

Nope, the unfortunate thing is, is that I can see other countries following suit too.

 

[Uppercut]

Anyone else absolutely shocked to see the EU put ridiculously authoritarian laws through today?

No me neither

The copyright stuff? Interesting to hear from sledger but it looks ****ing atrocious.

 

[StephenZA]

Copyright and Patent is already such a strange weird thing....

 

[Magrat Garlick]

not gonna bother defending it, hope it gets bounced around various institutions with no real action like the Data Retention Directive.

 

[harsh.ag]

This is the kind of law which you can't implement unless you literally turn towards authoritarianism.

 

[Indipper]

Anyone else absolutely shocked to see the EU put ridiculously authoritarian laws through today?

No me neither

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

[StephenZA]

I'm not condoning the law but just asking, with the internets lack of copyright protection does this not mean that something needs to give on these laws, where either online needs to start obeying the 'hardcopy' laws or else current copyright laws need to be relaxed? Or you end up with 2 systems.

 

[Groundking]

This is the kind of law which you can't implement unless you literally turn towards authoritarianism.

Nope, but the EU is full of authoritarians, so expect it to happen. Disgusting.

 

[StephenZA]

 

[Uppercut]

I mean it controls ~no physical force independently of its member states, so it'd be doing pretty well to implement a police state.

 

[GIMH]

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Go **** yourself

 

[Indipper]

Go **** yourself

Does a hint that lobbyist laws are not the same as authoritarian rule anger you that much? Surely the UK has its share.

 

[GIMH]

In seriousness, I probably do have a different interpretation (rather than definition) of authoritarian than you (and most round here) but that being said, I’ve seen plenty of people not remotely like minded to me citing this as authoritarian.

De facto censorship

 

[Indipper]

Point taken,

 

[StephenZA]

De facto censorship

In all seriousness how is this censorship? Or is all copyright censorship? Or do you think this has nothing to do with copyright/intellectual property? I reiterate I do not like this law either, but I would like to know what distinguishes it from most copyright/intellectual property laws?