The Australian politics thread

[Burgey]

Not if you’re owned by Gina Reinhardt.

 

[Burgey]

Dutton out and about denying talk of a challenge, saying he's a team player.

It's definitely on.

 

[Redbacks]

Possibly. Sounds like there’s a few backbenchers who would rather lose government than vote for the Neg.

 

[Prince EWS]

Possibly. Sounds like there’s a few backbenchers who would rather lose government than vote for the Neg.

Which would be fine if not for the fact that losing government will inevitably result in something they'd hate even more than they hate the NEG.

 

[Spark]

Their estimation is probably that they'll lose anyway, and climate policy is so inherently toxic that it'd be best long-term if they weren't responsible for it.

 

[Redbacks]

True. They are going to lose either way but perhaps it sets up the battle lines from opposition.

The ALP is going to promise prices are going to be lower, even at 50% renewables. That’s not true, so it’s an easy target.

 

[Ikki]

Annings speech was evidently taken out of context by sections of the media according to Bolt.

Well of course it was. Anning himself straight out said that wasn't the connection he was making but people who are looking for dog-whistles will find them.

 

[Prince EWS]

Well of course it was. Anning himself straight out said that wasn't the connection he was making but people who are looking for dog-whistles will find them.

Haha his speech-writer knew exactly what he was doing. I've met the guy, trust me.

The media have played right into their hands though.

 

[Spark]

I mean for me the "final solution" was the headline but it was the unrepetantant defence of the actual White Australia policy that was actually horrible.

 

[Spikey]

I liked his memory of Queensland during Joh's reign...

I remember Queensland as it was in the sixties, seventies and early eighties, when working blokes could get good, well-paying jobs actually making products for us to buy; when people could start small businesses and not be strangled by red tape; when car rego, stamp duty and rates were affordable; when electricity was the cheapest in the world; when, through statutory and orderly marketing, farmers were not bled white by rapacious corporations or forced to sell to Chinese carpetbaggers; when you could say what you thought without being charged with a crime; and when we could all enjoy our leisure time without all the nanny state restrictions and prohibitions.

 

[Ikki]

Haha his speech-writer knew exactly what he was doing. I've met the guy, trust me.

The media have played right into their hands though.

You think he's racist? Or are you saying he just did it for attention?

 

[Top_Cat]

I liked his memory of Queensland during Joh's reign...

 

[Prince EWS]

You think he's racist? Or are you saying he just did it for attention?

For mine Richard Howard clearly wrote the speech (or at the very least, that part of it). I've met him a couple of times and at heart he's just a troll. He absolutely thinks saying completely out of bounds stuff is the best tactic for micro-right parliamentarians, especially if they can find a way to give the words they use a double-meaning. "Final solution" really was just a completely textbook Richard Howard troll.

Fraser Anning pretty clearly does suppoort the WAP - he has not denied this even after the speech, so if you think the WAP is racist (and I fail to see how it could not be), then yeah. But I don't think he supports the "final solution" or what that represents, and the poor bugger probably wasn't even aware why Richard had worded it that way, so that was for the attention.

 

[Spark]

He said on 3AW that Australian-born Muslims with no other citizenship should still be deported (to "Muslimland" presumably) if they commit any crimes, so, yeah...

 

[Prince EWS]

He said on 3AW that Australian-born Muslims with no other citizenship should still be deported (to "Muslimland" presumably) if they commit any crimes, so, yeah...

Yeah I guess if I were to lay out my opinions to the relevant questions, it'd be:

• Fraser Anning endorses the White Australia Policy, at least for new immigrants
• On top of this, he's anti-Muslim to the point of wanting to deport all Muslims to whichever country will take them
• Richard Howard, essentially a race-baiting libertarian, helped him with his speech, and straight up wrote large segments of it, including the controversial line
• Neither Anning nor Howard believe in the "final solution" as loosely indicated
• Howard knew how people would react to phrasing, Anning didn't
• Neither are disappointed by it
• The media have played into their hands; both will benefit

So in short, Anning is a racist but not a Nazi, Howard isn't really either but is a professional troll, and this will help both of them.

 

[Spark]

I don't think it's even anti-Muslim per se, it's flat out anyone who isn't white (he went after Asians and Africans too - notwithstanding the fact that I'm pretty sure a big proportion of the African migrants we take in are Christians, and certainly more Christian than the median Australian these days)

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't think it's even anti-Muslim per se, it's flat out anyone who isn't white (he went after Asians and Africans too - notwithstanding the fact that I'm pretty sure a big proportion of the African migrants we take in are Christians, and certainly more Christian than the median Australian these days)

He's more anti-Muslim than he is anti-white I think.

He wants to deport all Muslims; he just doesn't want to let any new non-whites in.

He wouldn't dare suggest Asians should be deported because 30% of his target voting demographic have Asian wives.

 

[Spark]

He's more anti-Muslim than he is anti-white I think.

He wants to deport all Muslims; he just doesn't want to let any new non-whites in.

He wouldn't dare suggest Asians should be deported because 30% of his target voting demographic have Asian wives.

Haha is this actually true? Considering that in theory his target demo is rural North Queenslanders.

 

[Prince EWS]

Haha is this actually true? Considering that in theory his target demo is rural North Queenslanders.

I was making a joke about the Australian "white supremacist" men I encounter on the internet. But it wouldn't surprise me if they actually factored that in, tbh.

 

[Dan]

Their estimation is probably that they'll lose anyway, and climate policy is so inherently toxic that it'd be best long-term if they weren't responsible for it.

Or they're incredibly thick.

Enjoyed this one today:


inb4 he calls for milk price controls and slams the socialist Greens in the same post.